On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:46:50 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote:

>
> If you ask the same question about numbers it seems that maybe they can 
> exist because there are a lot of different pairs and without one of them 
> the number 2 can count another pair.  But can 2 exist if there are no pairs 
> to count, or no counters to identify pairs?
>

Number 2 is a relational property of all pairs. I don't think that a 
property can exist without that which it is a property of. It is the 
meaning/nature of property to be a property of something. All pairs exist 
eternally, just like number 2 and everything else.  


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