On 8/29/2021 5:50 AM, Tomas Pales wrote:

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:46:50 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote:


    If you ask the same question about numbers it seems that maybe
    they can exist because there are a lot of different pairs and
    without one of them the number 2 can count another pair.  But can
    2 exist if there are no pairs to count, or no counters to identify
    pairs?


Number 2 is a relational property of all pairs. I don't think that a property can exist without that which it is a property of. It is the meaning/nature of property to be a property of something. All pairs exist eternally, just like number 2 and everything else.

All the pairs I know of, my shoes, my gloves, my dogs,... do NOT exist eternally.  And they are only conceived of as pairs because I and other people nominate such.

Brent

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