Right Jesse, I don't worship at the Church of Dark Matter, merely like to give speculative science a voice. If such doesn't exist, well, I will get over it somehow. Theoretical physics for me, is only useful (to me) if it can somehow be applied to help people? If somebody quotes a physicist, then he quotes a physicist. I am suspecting that there are discoveries yet to be made regarding the universe, all waiting for the correct equipment to detect and observe. But that claim of mine may not be true. Onwards we roll, with me habitually keeping an eye to my own questions; can it be helpful, can it be used?
-----Original Message----- From: Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Oct 28, 2021 1:17 am Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe? Lisa Randall's work doesn't say anything about dark matter interacting with baryonic (normal) matter via the strong nuclear force or the electromagnetic force (the former is responsible for binding the nucleus of atoms together, the latter for electromagnetic radiation and chemical bonds), so the kind of dark matter that she postulates could have nothing to do with biophotons or the supposed "additional mass of life" that Philip Benjamin mentions. Rather her suggestion about a new "hypothetical type of dark matter" is about a type of dark matter particle that interacts more strongly with other dark matter particles of the same type, different from the standard idea of "cold dark matter" that has almost no non-gravitational self-interaction. See the abstract of her paper at https://arxiv.org/abs/1303.1521 which talks about how this hypothetical form of dark matter could self-interact in a way that causes it "cool efficiently and form a disk within galaxies": "Based on observational constraints on large scale structure and halo structure, dark matter is generally taken to be cold and essentially collisionless. On the other hand, given the large number of particles and forces in the visible world, a more complex dark sector could be a reasonable or even likely possibility. This hypothesis leads to testable consequences, perhaps portending the discovery of a rich hidden world neighboring our own. We consider a scenario that readily satisfies current bounds that we call Partially Interacting Dark Matter (PIDM). This scenario contains self-interacting dark matter, but it is not the dominant component. Even if PIDM contains only a fraction of the net dark matter density, comparable to the baryonic fraction, the subdominant component's interactions can lead to interesting and potentially observable consequences. Our primary focus will be the special case of Double-Disk Dark Matter (DDDM), in which self-interactions allow the dark matter to lose enough energy to lead to dynamics similar to those in the baryonic sector. We explore a simple model in which DDDM can cool efficiently and form a disk within galaxies, and we evaluate some of the possible observational signatures." Randall later offered the speculation that if such a disc exists, its gravitational influence on our solar system passing through it periodically over huge spans of time might disrupt the orbits of small bodies like asteroids and comets enough to make mass extinctions more likely during such transits, which could fit with prior speculations that mass extinctions seem roughly periodic (I remember this was once used to argue for the existence that the Sun could have a companion star, 'Nemesis', with an extremely long eccentric orbit, though from what I remember the whole idea that mass extinctions are periodic was dismissed by many as finding a false pattern in noisy data). This is discussed in the review of her book "Dark Matter and the Dinosaurs" at https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/books/review/dark-matter-and-the-dinosaurs-by-lisa-randall.html which says that the hypothetical self-interaction force between dark matter has been called "dark light" (though the name is just an analogy, it would be separate from the electromagnetic force), and it also says that she emphasizes that all this is extremely speculative. Jesse On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 3:53 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: Sorry LC, you as a physicist probably don't have time or interest to answer PB's assertions, but refutation rationally requires a person to show how Lisa Randall is wrong? The same with Sorli in Slovenia. On the other hand if you don't like beer, nobody is going to make you like beer. Are you obligated to enter into endless discussions concerning assertions on physics that you know to be wrong? Naw. Most days, I just don't have the interest in purported, dark-matter life, anymore than I have the interest in angels. From our limited perspective today in 2021, the likelihood of other civilizations appears remote to the point of having become uninteresting. Refuting may best be done by lawyers, but dismissing your colleagues' works seems much more sketchy. -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 24, 2021 4:01 pm Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe? This is absolute codswallop. LC On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 2:27:31 PM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote: [Philip Benjamin] Putative champions of dark-mater theoriesuse the term “dark-matter universe” without fully appreciating its implications http://cosmos.nautil.us/feature/134/does-dark-matter-harbor-life), Thisnecessarily requires more than application of physics to dark-matter per se. Universe involves life forms. Dark-matter universe is no exception. That also entails resonant dark-matter lives from the moment of conception -- bio dark-matter body vis-à-vis bio light-matter body. No chemistry, no life! What these theorists are focusing is the unknown astrophysical dark-matter. It needs be noted that the known astrophysical light-matter is largely ions of the most abundant elements of the universe-- H and He, while the biospherical light-matter consists of the 92+ elements of the Periodic Table. From symmetrical considerations, there may be a class of biospherical dark-matter which these these theorists hypothesize as “small fraction of dark matter” with the further remark that “it is definitely a worthwhile theory to explore, which has to be bio dark-matter chemistry of bio dark-matter atoms. Chemistry meanschemical bondswhich are spin-governed particle configurations of duets and octets. It is conceivable that the three flavors of neutrinos may be the counterparts of electrons, protons and neutrons. The masses of ν 1 and ν 2 are known to be close to one another (verisimilar to the close masses of p and n, while ν 3 weighs much less than the other two, such that the ratios of the masses of the neutrino flavors correspond to the ratios of the masses of e, p, n. Or. the dark matter atoms may consist of monopoles (N & S) and axions, all of negligible mass relative to electron mass, but with the same ratios as e, p, n. Empirical Evidences: 1 . Unidentified “Additional Mass of Life” for a living organism in a hermitically sealed system, which disappears at death as reported by Amrit S. Sorli, Scientific Research Centre BISTRA, Ptuj, Slovenia,http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary; doi=10.1.1.218.573; https://core.ac.uk/display/21767122. 2012, Journal of Theoretics Vol.4-2). 2 . Unidentified Source of biophotons. Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact with each other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch, contract, have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break. These cause weak changes in energetics of thelight-matter chemical bonds, and result in emission of weak photons. They indeed exist and are known asbiophotons. Attributing the origin of that emission to DNA is flawed, since the standardizedrate of emission varies across the taxa by an order of magnitude though the DNA structures are the same. The sudden burst of biophotons at the moment of death of plant and animal cells results from the breaking of the coupling forces. OBE/NDE phenomena depend on the extent of “bond-dissociation”. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282154962_Bio_dark-Matter_Chemistry_Implicationshttps://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_spirit_our_energy_Is_spirit_dark_energyhttp://biodarkmatter.webs.com/index.htm https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html “Spiritual Body or Physical Spirit” Corollary: At the moment of conception both light and dark twins in resonance are cocreated. The former is electric, entropic and unenduring. The latter is non-electric, non-entropic and enduring. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. That may be the basis of self-awareness. That means the application of universal laws of chemistry (chemical bonds= spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets). The resonant twins of bio light-matter and bio dark-matter bodies are cocreated at the moment of conception. For the sake of symmetry, the former is electric, entropic and non-enduring; the latter is non-electric, non-entropic and enduring. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. It may be the basis of self-awareness of conscious beings. Consciousness itself must be an integral part of an enduring but dormant bio dark-matter body. The dormancy need be quickened or awakened by an external agency, as in the case of Augustine the chief architect of modern Western Civilization. Philip Benjamin CC. Harvard Center of Fundamental Laws of Nature & High Energy Theory. Notes: https://nautil.us/issue/48/chaos/does-dark-matter-harbor-life Does Dark Matter Harbor Life? An invisible civilization could be living right under your nose. BY LISA RANDALL https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/06/delving-into-dark-matter/ “Though dark matter is otherwise believed to be non-interacting, theoretical physicists Lisa Randall, the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science, and Matthew Reece, assistant professor of physics, earlier this year [2014] suggested that a hypothetical type of dark matter could form a disk of material that runs through the center of the galaxy”…. “If you were to look at our world and assume there was only one type of particle, you’d be pretty wrong,” Randall said. “I think it’s definitely a worthwhile theory to explore, because even if this is only a small fraction of dark matter,there is six times more dark matter in the universe than ordinary matter.We care a lot about ordinary matter, and that’s precisely because it has interactions.So if there is a small portion of dark matter that has those interactions, that may be what we should pay attention to, perhaps even more so than other dark matter.”.Philip Benjamin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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