[Jesse Mazer]
“Lisa Randall's work doesn't say anything about dark matter interacting with 
baryonic (normal) matter via the strong nuclear force or the electromagnetic 
force (the former is responsible for binding the nucleus of atoms together, the 
latter for electromagnetic radiation and chemical bonds), so the kind of dark 
matter that she postulates could have nothing to do with biophotons or the 
supposed "additional mass of life" that Philip Benjamin mentions.”
  [Philip Benjamin]
You are right. But here is the missing point. A school of fish is not a fish. 
Chemical bonds are not chemicals. They are configurations of particles, octets 
and duets. Universe is not just free particles running amuck!! Particles have 
to combine into the makeup of a universe. A dark-universe cannot be an 
exception. Interaction between dark-particles is a necessity for a 
dark-universe. Biophotons reflect energetics between “bonds” not particles per 
se. Interactions of dark bonds and light bonds is not the same as that between 
dark and light particles.
       Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact with 
each other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch, 
contract, have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break. 
These cause weak changes in energetics of the light-matter chemical bonds, 
resulting in emission of weak photons known as biophotons. The sudden burst of 
biophotons at the moment of death of plant and animal cells results from the 
breaking of the coupling forces. OBE/NDE phenomena depend on the extent 
of“bond-dissociation.
 Sorli’s additional mass is worth exploring further.
Philip Benjamin
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Jesse Mazer
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe?

Lisa Randall's work doesn't say anything about dark matter interacting with 
baryonic (normal) matter via the strong nuclear force or the electromagnetic 
force (the former is responsible for binding the nucleus of atoms together, the 
latter for electromagnetic radiation and chemical bonds), so the kind of dark 
matter that she postulates could have nothing to do with biophotons or the 
supposed "additional mass of life" that Philip Benjamin mentions. Rather her 
suggestion about a new "hypothetical type of dark matter" is about a type of 
dark matter particle that interacts more strongly with other dark matter 
particles of the same type, different from the standard idea of "cold dark 
matter" that has almost no non-gravitational self-interaction. See the abstract 
of her paper at 
https://arxiv.org/abs/1303.1521<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fabs%2F1303.1521&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528166713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0bdifKTreWRFIs9%2FDh4fw9hVKUHRZ%2BLX7LGmBprXk5M%3D&reserved=0>
 which talks about how this hypothetical form of dark matter could 
self-interact in a way that causes it "cool efficiently and form a disk within 
galaxies":

"Based on observational constraints on large scale structure and halo 
structure, dark matter is generally taken to be cold and essentially 
collisionless. On the other hand, given the large number of particles and 
forces in the visible world, a more complex dark sector could be a reasonable 
or even likely possibility. This hypothesis leads to testable consequences, 
perhaps portending the discovery of a rich hidden world neighboring our own. We 
consider a scenario that readily satisfies current bounds that we call 
Partially Interacting Dark Matter (PIDM). This scenario contains 
self-interacting dark matter, but it is not the dominant component. Even if 
PIDM contains only a fraction of the net dark matter density, comparable to the 
baryonic fraction, the subdominant component's interactions can lead to 
interesting and potentially observable consequences. Our primary focus will be 
the special case of Double-Disk Dark Matter (DDDM), in which self-interactions 
allow the dark matter to lose enough energy to lead to dynamics similar to 
those in the baryonic sector. We explore a simple model in which DDDM can cool 
efficiently and form a disk within galaxies, and we evaluate some of the 
possible observational signatures."

Randall later offered the speculation that if such a disc exists, its 
gravitational influence on our solar system passing through it periodically 
over huge spans of time might disrupt the orbits of small bodies like asteroids 
and comets enough to make mass extinctions more likely during such transits, 
which could fit with prior speculations that mass extinctions seem roughly 
periodic (I remember this was once used to argue for the existence that the Sun 
could have a companion star, 'Nemesis', with an extremely long eccentric orbit, 
though from what I remember the whole idea that mass extinctions are periodic 
was dismissed by many as finding a false pattern in noisy data). This is 
discussed in the review of her book "Dark Matter and the Dinosaurs" at 
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/books/review/dark-matter-and-the-dinosaurs-by-lisa-randall.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2015%2F11%2F29%2Fbooks%2Freview%2Fdark-matter-and-the-dinosaurs-by-lisa-randall.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528166713%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2kA0ZIyDbYQvUtMR14I52xRGB86BgnAQJOeefflEOFo%3D&reserved=0>
 which says that the hypothetical self-interaction force between dark matter 
has been called "dark light" (though the name is just an analogy, it would be 
separate from the electromagnetic force), and it also says that she emphasizes 
that all this is extremely speculative.

Jesse

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 2:27:31 PM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote:
[Philip Benjamin]
     Putative champions of dark-mater theories use the term “dark-matter 
universe” without fully appreciating its implications  
http://cosmos.nautil.us/feature/134/does-dark-matter-harbor-life<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcosmos.nautil.us%2Ffeature%2F134%2Fdoes-dark-matter-harbor-life&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528176669%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=yzDObOlSHfQUVglb%2FGqEHf%2For7neGevWDkXezoMdxQI%3D&reserved=0>),
 This necessarily requires more than application of physics to dark-matter per 
se. Universe involves life forms. Dark-matter universe is no exception. That 
also entails resonant dark-matter lives from the moment of conception -- bio 
dark-matter body vis-à-vis bio light-matter body. No chemistry, no life!
      What these theorists are focusing is the unknown astrophysical 
dark-matter. It needs be noted that the known astrophysical light-matter is 
largely ions of the most abundant elements of the universe-- H and He, while 
the biospherical light-matter consists of the 92+ elements of the Periodic 
Table. From symmetrical considerations, there may be a class of biospherical 
dark-matter which these these theorists hypothesize as “small fraction of dark 
matter” with the further remark that “it is definitely a worthwhile theory to 
explore,  which has to be bio dark-matter chemistry of bio dark-matter atoms. 
Chemistry means chemical bonds which are spin-governed particle configurations 
of duets and octets. It is conceivable that the three flavors of neutrinos may 
be the counterparts of electrons, protons and neutrons. The masses of ν 1 and ν 
2 are known to be close to one another (verisimilar to the close masses of p 
and n, while ν 3 weighs much less than the other two, such that the ratios of 
the masses of the neutrino flavors correspond to the ratios of the masses of e, 
p, n. Or. the dark matter atoms may consist of monopoles (N & S) and axions, 
all of negligible mass relative to electron mass, but with the same ratios as 
e, p, n.
Empirical Evidences:
       1 . Unidentified “Additional Mass of Life” for a living organism in a 
hermitically sealed system, which disappears at death as reported by Amrit S. 
Sorli, Scientific Research Centre BISTRA, Ptuj, Slovenia, 
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fsummary&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528176669%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Sl2BW1k6pz%2F%2FpYpfrN955KkhLP2fWN54lEipG%2B2Ez00%3D&reserved=0>;
 doi=10.1.1.218.573;  
https://core.ac.uk/display/21767122<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcore.ac.uk%2Fdisplay%2F21767122&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528176669%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Gr3MLViZyLYykoMsyoCpCq3v%2BPYyBo2OOBVUJLtSyMQ%3D&reserved=0>.
 2012, Journal of Theoretics Vol.4-2).
      2 . Unidentified Source of biophotons.
      Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact with each 
other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch, contract, 
have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break. These cause 
weak changes in energetics of the light-matter chemical bonds, and result in 
emission of weak photons. They indeed exist and are  known as biophotons. 
Attributing the origin of that emission to DNA is flawed, since the 
standardized rate of emission varies across the taxa by an order of magnitude 
though the DNA structures are the same.  The sudden burst of biophotons at the 
moment of death of plant and animal cells results from the breaking of the 
coupling forces. OBE/NDE phenomena depend on the extent of  “bond-dissociation”.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282154962_Bio_dark-Matter_Chemistry_Implications<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F282154962_Bio_dark-Matter_Chemistry_Implications&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528186627%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cxOomvoaeVnQOR0ZFltDt70aVWo%2BYCHn%2BhpklnqTj1M%3D&reserved=0>
 
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_spirit_our_energy_Is_spirit_dark_energy<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpost%2FIs_spirit_our_energy_Is_spirit_dark_energy&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528186627%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QJol%2F47UEgLJXePcOhyfJW3BIwQES0lNolJ2ppEZPtA%3D&reserved=0>
http://biodarkmatter.webs.com/index.htm<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbiodarkmatter.webs.com%2Findex.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528196581%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=SDGXeVAb8gm97mDYk45RElPuQcVPgNv4706QJhmGZCQ%3D&reserved=0>
https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.prlog.org%2F12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528196581%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FG2HL4Ryd4iF2yZ6dcLGzUrGh%2F7S2yk7F5RJIHzzaCo%3D&reserved=0>
  “Spiritual Body or Physical Spirit”
Corollary:
    At the moment of conception both light and dark twins in resonance are 
cocreated. The former is electric, entropic and unenduring. The latter is 
non-electric, non-entropic and enduring. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. 
That may  be the basis of self-awareness.
        That means the application of universal laws of chemistry (chemical 
bonds= spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets). The resonant 
twins of bio light-matter and bio dark-matter bodies are cocreated at the 
moment of conception. For the sake of symmetry, the former is electric, 
entropic and non-enduring; the latter is non-electric, non-entropic and 
enduring. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. It may be the basis of 
self-awareness of conscious beings. Consciousness itself must be an integral 
part of an enduring but dormant bio dark-matter body. The dormancy need be 
quickened or awakened by an external agency, as in the case of Augustine the 
chief architect of modern Western Civilization.
 Philip Benjamin
                      CC. Harvard Center of Fundamental Laws of Nature & High 
Energy Theory.
Notes:
            
https://nautil.us/issue/48/chaos/does-dark-matter-harbor-life<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnautil.us%2Fissue%2F48%2Fchaos%2Fdoes-dark-matter-harbor-life&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528196581%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=I8jDcxuDWAEc7LQTTZLv2slf3xTspwPIw3lvOCMMROY%3D&reserved=0>
 Does Dark Matter Harbor Life? An invisible civilization could be living right 
under your nose. BY LISA RANDALL
               
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/06/delving-into-dark-matter/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.harvard.edu%2Fgazette%2Fstory%2F2014%2F06%2Fdelving-into-dark-matter%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3660bfe1a1344400388408d999d23dd9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637709950528206536%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6wl4BKQZLKB4PLmZ981VezGKe5mbYusn%2BoA7zIb%2Fafg%3D&reserved=0>
“Though dark matter is otherwise believed to be non-interacting, theoretical 
physicists Lisa Randall, the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science, and 
Matthew Reece, assistant professor of physics, earlier this year [2014] 
suggested that a hypothetical type of dark matter could form a disk of material 
that runs through the center of the galaxy”…. “If you were to look at our world 
and assume there was only one type of particle, you’d be pretty wrong,” Randall 
said. “I think it’s definitely a worthwhile theory to explore, because even if 
this is only a small fraction of dark matter, there is six times more dark 
matter in the universe than ordinary matter. We care a lot about ordinary 
matter, and that’s precisely because it has interactions. So if there is a 
small portion of dark matter that has those interactions, that may be what we 
should pay attention to, perhaps even more so than other dark matter.”.
Philip Benjamin .

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