Well we know the Standard Model was shelved back in 1997 correct? So onwards we 
march in an ever-accelerating universe. My suspicion is that given enormous 
funding, we could line the rim of the solar system out past the heliosphere 
with both gigantic radio and optical telescopes some of our laws would prove 
often accurate under the correct conditions. Is that statement true? Not today 
it's not, because we will have to have the machinery to uncover new evidence 
and new anomalies. I have heard the dark matter speculation beyond this wee 
emailing group. I couldn't swear it was Avi Loeb, but he always jumps on this 
kind of thing?

If there is dark matter and its complex, then yeah, maybe life and 
intelligence. But it'd probably be the size of Western Canada, being only held 
together by gravity and not electrons. I ain't holding my breath, and ain't 
hoping for Oumauamua to return for a chat.

Still, you're in the education business and being an educator means that at 
least you give a whack at disposing nonsense with scientific observation. 
Beyond a one-off thing, it's all yours. Also, there doesn't appear to be any 
undergrads available to set it correctly. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2021 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe?

On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 3:30:45 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 9:53:26 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:

Sorry LC, you as a physicist probably don't have time or interest  to answer 
PB's assertions, but refutation rationally requires a person to show how Lisa 
Randall is wrong? The same with Sorli  in Slovenia. On the other hand if you 
don't like beer, nobody is going to make you like beer. Are you obligated to 
enter into endless discussions concerning assertions on physics that you know 
to be wrong? Naw. Most days, I just don't have the interest in purported, 
dark-matter life, anymore than I have the interest in angels. From our limited 
perspective today in 2021, the likelihood of other civilizations appears remote 
to the point of having become uninteresting. Refuting may best be done by 
lawyers, but dismissing your colleagues' works seems much more sketchy.  


That's upside down. When making non-standard assertions the burden of proof 
lies with those that make the claims. There are always unknown phenomena, which 
doesn't count as evidence. The existence of angels/dark matter entities is not 
something one can simply invert by saying "well, prove me wrong", unless one 
lives and is totally enchanted by local little internet/social-media bubbles. 
If you need lawyers for refutation and are irritated by sketchy behavior, then 
the suggestion to avoid the internet is appropriate. Because along those lines, 
you now have to believe in dark matter angels or pay a lawyer to refute it for 
you. Otherwise you may seem much more sketchy yourself.
James Wright

Right, and on top of it I do not have and neither does anyone else have the 
time or the energy to refute every knucklehead who promotes this sort of 
balderdash. That would become a full-time job. A sufficiently grounded 
undergraduate student in physics at the junior level should clock this stuff 
below as total nonsense. It does not require an exhaustive review, it is just 
thrown out.
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