See if this is of any help: https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2021/08/adams-covenant-expulsion-overview.html
> On 29-Oct-2021, at 8:02 PM, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > [Jesse Mazer] > “ So when you say dark and light matter "interact with each other", are you > just saying that dark matter particles interact with one another in a way > that's analogous to how regular atoms interact? Or are you saying that dark > matter can interact with normal matter in a way that produces "reciprocal > motion", "resonance structures" etc.?” > [Philip Benjamin] > No, not particles per se, but “chemical bonds”—Light & Dark- can > interact. I have nor so far come across the impossibility of dark matter > interacting with ITSELF, though nothing yet to explain how it does!! For the > sake of argument, suppose the light-matter particles (Standard Model) do not > interact. Then ther will not be a light-matter universe of chemicals and life > forms. How can the “dark-universe” of the theorists be an exception? . > Astrophysics has the tools and mathematics to prove or disprove the > existence of dark matter partilcs or dark atoms. That is not the matter of > discussion here. > Philip Benjamin > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Jesse Mazer > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe? > > "Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact with each > other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch, contract, > have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break." > As I understand it, the general framework of quantum field theory says that > the only* way particles can interact with each other is via exchange forces, > with the four known forces between baryons being the "strong" and "weak" > nuclear forces, the electromagnetic force, and gravitational force (though > the latter is not yet covered by quantum field theory, it would require a > theory of quantum gravity, perhaps a more complete version of string theory). > And there are some known types of particles like neutrinos where both theory > and empirical evidence indicate that they do not interact with the protons, > neutrons and electrons that make up our body via the strong or > electromagnetic forces, the only interaction they have with us is via gravity > or via the "weak" nuclear interaction (which accounts for why only a tiny > fraction of neutrinos have scattering interactions with any part of the Earth > as they pass through it, the vast majority pass right through millions of > miles of solid rock as if it were empty space). By far the most popular > theory of dark matter, which in cosmological computer simulations seems to > provide a good match to empirical observations, is that dark matter is made > up of "WIMPs" or weakly-interacting massive particles, which like neutrinos > would only interact with normal matter via gravity and the weak force. Lisa > Randall is postulating a new force that only operates between some subtype of > dark matter particles, but this theory doesn't challenge the theory that > interactions between dark matter and normal baryonic matter are exclusively > due to gravity and the weak force. > > So when you say dark and light matter "interact with each other", are you > just saying that dark matter particles interact with one another in a way > that's analogous to how regular atoms interact? Or are you saying that dark > matter can interact with normal matter in a way that produces "reciprocal > motion", "resonance structures" etc.? And if the latter, are you imagining > the weak nuclear force would be sufficient for this, or are you assuming some > new undiscovered force mediating the interaction, or are you questioning the > whole quantum field theory framework saying that different particles can only > interact via specific exchange forces? > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 11:21 AM Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> > wrote: > [Jesse Mazer] > “Lisa Randall's work doesn't say anything about dark matter interacting with > baryonic (normal) matter via the strong nuclear force or the electromagnetic > force (the former is responsible for binding the nucleus of atoms together, > the latter for electromagnetic radiation and chemical bonds), so the kind of > dark matter that she postulates could have nothing to do with biophotons or > the supposed "additional mass of life" that Philip Benjamin mentions.” > [Philip Benjamin] > You are right. But here is the missing point. A school of fish is not a fish. > Chemical bonds are not chemicals. They are configurations of particles, > octets and duets. Universe is not just free particles running amuck!! > Particles have to combine into the makeup of a universe. A dark-universe > cannot be an exception. Interaction between dark-particles is a necessity for > a dark-universe. Biophotons reflect energetics between “bonds” not particles > per se. Interactions of dark bonds and light bonds is not the same as that > between dark and light particles. > Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact with > each other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch, > contract, have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break. > These cause weak changes in energetics of the light-matter chemical bonds, > resulting in emission of weak photons known as biophotons. The sudden burst > of biophotons at the moment of death of plant and animal cells results from > the breaking of the coupling forces. OBE/NDE phenomena depend on the extent > of“bond-dissociation. > Sorli’s additional mass is worth exploring further. > Philip Benjamin > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Jesse Mazer > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe? > > Lisa Randall's work doesn't say anything about dark matter interacting with > baryonic (normal) matter via the strong nuclear force or the electromagnetic > force (the former is responsible for binding the nucleus of atoms together, > the latter for electromagnetic radiation and chemical bonds), so the kind of > dark matter that she postulates could have nothing to do with biophotons or > the supposed "additional mass of life" that Philip Benjamin mentions. Rather > her suggestion about a new "hypothetical type of dark matter" is about a type > of dark matter particle that interacts more strongly with other dark matter > particles of the same type, different from the standard idea of "cold dark > matter" that has almost no non-gravitational self-interaction. See the > abstract of her paper at https://arxiv.org/abs/1303.1521 which talks about > how this hypothetical form of dark matter could self-interact in a way that > causes it "cool efficiently and form a disk within galaxies": > > "Based on observational constraints on large scale structure and halo > structure, dark matter is generally taken to be cold and essentially > collisionless. On the other hand, given the large number of particles and > forces in the visible world, a more complex dark sector could be a reasonable > or even likely possibility. This hypothesis leads to testable consequences, > perhaps portending the discovery of a rich hidden world neighboring our own. > We consider a scenario that readily satisfies current bounds that we call > Partially Interacting Dark Matter (PIDM). This scenario contains > self-interacting dark matter, but it is not the dominant component. Even if > PIDM contains only a fraction of the net dark matter density, comparable to > the baryonic fraction, the subdominant component's interactions can lead to > interesting and potentially observable consequences. Our primary focus will > be the special case of Double-Disk Dark Matter (DDDM), in which > self-interactions allow the dark matter to lose enough energy to lead to > dynamics similar to those in the baryonic sector. We explore a simple model > in which DDDM can cool efficiently and form a disk within galaxies, and we > evaluate some of the possible observational signatures." > > Randall later offered the speculation that if such a disc exists, its > gravitational influence on our solar system passing through it periodically > over huge spans of time might disrupt the orbits of small bodies like > asteroids and comets enough to make mass extinctions more likely during such > transits, which could fit with prior speculations that mass extinctions seem > roughly periodic (I remember this was once used to argue for the existence > that the Sun could have a companion star, 'Nemesis', with an extremely long > eccentric orbit, though from what I remember the whole idea that mass > extinctions are periodic was dismissed by many as finding a false pattern in > noisy data). This is discussed in the review of her book "Dark Matter and the > Dinosaurs" at > https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/books/review/dark-matter-and-the-dinosaurs-by-lisa-randall.html > which says that the hypothetical self-interaction force between dark matter > has been called "dark light" (though the name is just an analogy, it would be > separate from the electromagnetic force), and it also says that she > emphasizes that all this is extremely speculative. > > Jesse > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 2:27:31 PM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote: > [Philip Benjamin] > Putative champions of dark-mater theories use the term “dark-matter > universe” without fully appreciating its implications > http://cosmos.nautil.us/feature/134/does-dark-matter-harbor-life), This > necessarily requires more than application of physics to dark-matter per se. > Universe involves life forms. Dark-matter universe is no exception. That also > entails resonant dark-matter lives from the moment of conception -- bio > dark-matter body vis-à-vis bio light-matter body. No chemistry, no life! > What these theorists are focusing is the unknown astrophysical > dark-matter. It needs be noted that the known astrophysical light-matter is > largely ions of the most abundant elements of the universe-- H and He, while > the biospherical light-matter consists of the 92+ elements of the Periodic > Table. From symmetrical considerations, there may be a class of biospherical > dark-matter which these these theorists hypothesize as “small fraction of > dark matter” with the further remark that “it is definitely a worthwhile > theory to explore, which has to be bio dark-matter chemistry of bio > dark-matter atoms. Chemistry means chemical bonds which are spin-governed > particle configurations of duets and octets. It is conceivable that the three > flavors of neutrinos may be the counterparts of electrons, protons and > neutrons. The masses of ν 1 and ν 2 are known to be close to one another > (verisimilar to the close masses of p and n, while ν 3 weighs much less than > the other two, such that the ratios of the masses of the neutrino flavors > correspond to the ratios of the masses of e, p, n. Or. the dark matter atoms > may consist of monopoles (N & S) and axions, all of negligible mass relative > to electron mass, but with the same ratios as e, p, n. > Empirical Evidences: > 1 . Unidentified “Additional Mass of Life” for a living organism in a > hermitically sealed system, which disappears at death as reported by Amrit S. > Sorli, Scientific Research Centre BISTRA, Ptuj, Slovenia, > http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary; doi=10.1.1.218.573; > https://core.ac.uk/display/21767122. 2012, Journal of Theoretics Vol.4-2). > > 2 . Unidentified Source of biophotons. > Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact with > each other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch, > contract, have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break. > These cause weak changes in energetics of the light-matter chemical bonds, > and result in emission of weak photons. They indeed exist and are known as > biophotons. Attributing the origin of that emission to DNA is flawed, since > the standardized rate of emission varies across the taxa by an order of > magnitude though the DNA structures are the same. The sudden burst of > biophotons at the moment of death of plant and animal cells results from the > breaking of the coupling forces. OBE/NDE phenomena depend on the extent of > “bond-dissociation”. > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282154962_Bio_dark-Matter_Chemistry_Implications > https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_spirit_our_energy_Is_spirit_dark_energy > http://biodarkmatter.webs.com/index.htm > > https://www.prlog.org/12085722-dr-philip-benjamin-explains-the-bio-chemistry-of-our-inner-selves-in-his-latest-book.html > “Spiritual Body or Physical Spirit” > Corollary: > At the moment of conception both light and dark twins in resonance are > cocreated. The former is electric, entropic and unenduring. The latter is > non-electric, non-entropic and enduring. Resonance is rudimentary > recognition. That may be the basis of self-awareness. > That means the application of universal laws of chemistry (chemical > bonds= spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets). The > resonant twins of bio light-matter and bio dark-matter bodies are cocreated > at the moment of conception. For the sake of symmetry, the former is > electric, entropic and non-enduring; the latter is non-electric, non-entropic > and enduring. Resonance is rudimentary recognition. It may be the basis of > self-awareness of conscious beings. Consciousness itself must be an integral > part of an enduring but dormant bio dark-matter body. The dormancy need be > quickened or awakened by an external agency, as in the case of Augustine the > chief architect of modern Western Civilization. > Philip Benjamin > CC. Harvard Center of Fundamental Laws of Nature & High > Energy Theory. > Notes: > https://nautil.us/issue/48/chaos/does-dark-matter-harbor-life > Does Dark Matter Harbor Life? An invisible civilization could be living right > under your nose. BY LISA RANDALL > > https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/06/delving-into-dark-matter/ > “Though dark matter is otherwise believed to be non-interacting, theoretical > physicists Lisa Randall, the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science, and > Matthew Reece, assistant professor of physics, earlier this year [2014] > suggested that a hypothetical type of dark matter could form a disk of > material that runs through the center of the galaxy”…. “If you were to look > at our world and assume there was only one type of particle, you’d be pretty > wrong,” Randall said. “I think it’s definitely a worthwhile theory to > explore, because even if this is only a small fraction of dark matter, there > is six times more dark matter in the universe than ordinary matter. We care a > lot about ordinary matter, and that’s precisely because it has interactions. > So if there is a small portion of dark matter that has those interactions, > that may be what we should pay attention to, perhaps even more so than other > dark matter.”. > Philip Benjamin . > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SJ0PR14MB5264E58E564824CDEBC500AFA8869%40SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAPCWU3%2BYM2%2B8a7sy1xb4dLQ%2B%2BeDFqNFLUv5SBZq%3DfY0E7sZVfQ%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/SJ0PR14MB526474AF727481B6712C04FDA8879%40SJ0PR14MB5264.namprd14.prod.outlook.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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