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[Philip Benjamin]
    There is nothing controversial here. No origin of life or consciousness or 
higher spirits or whateber else of a metaphysical nature is not the subject 
here. In fact there is no need of any of that for a rational discussion.

  1.  Does dark-matter exist, as determined by Fritz Zwicky (1933) and Veera 
Rubin (1960’s).

  1.  . If dark matter has chemistry (spin governed configurations of particle- 
duet, octet, of negligible mass with respect to electron), then will there be 
dark bodies from the moment of conception (dark chemical bonds  being 
non-electric, non-entropic and enduring)? 3.
  2.    Will resonance between the dark and light bodies be a BASIS (noi 
origin) of self-consciousness?
These are rationsl, scientific – not metaphysical—questions. Only befuddled 
WAMP “useful idiots” conforming to global Marxist-Socialist-Fascist paganism 
with Un-awakened Consciousness (UC) can indulge in Ad Hominem Fallacy here.
Philip Benjamin
Non-Conformist


From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 5:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] FW: Dark-Matter Universe?

I'm quite glad not to be involved in what sounds a somewhat - ahem - heated 
debate. But I'm losing track on what is agreed and disagreed.

1. 95% of the universe is 'dark' in that the 5 senses of the human being are 
unable to perceive it, nor can their instruments detect it as the instruments 
were designed for the 5 senses of the human being
'Fritz Zwicky’s (1933) missing matter confirmed by Veera Rubin in the 1960’s 
which constitute about 95% of the universe .... only 5% of the known matter of 
the Universe can have ordinary chemistry'.
2. It could be 'unprogrammed energy' - what the Greeks called chaos - or 
'programmed energy' in that it is energy displaying properties, which may 
themselves be 'visible' and called chemistry or invisible which in some cases 
are called 'physics' eg the attractive force = gravity.
On the other hand the programmed energy that is invisible and describes 
functions physicists no nothing of, is given all sorts of names and only 
studied by poets and artists eg love, joy, sorrow .

3 In a human being, the controlling entity by which this can be known is called 
the Higher spirit, Buddha nature, atman, immortal soul etc. On death, during 
NDEs and OBEs, consciousness transfers to the Higher spirit/immortal soul but a 
link remains to the body until the person dies in which case the immortal soul 
'flies' free and invisible
" And if it leads to a non-electric, non-entropic, enduring being of negligible 
mass, so be it. That is called SCIENCE, not religion." which it probably will.
4 But every aggregate, not just a human being will have such a point of 
consciousness, so as the human dies so will all those sub-aggregates and 
sub-aggregates with sub-aggregates that made its totality
And new aggregates will be formed displaying new properties and we call this 
chemistry too, decomposition of the aggregate followed by composition into a 
new aggregate displaying new properties
Attraction then repulsion, love and hate, black and white, the endless cycles 
and swing of the pendulum ticking forward. Tiktok.

rosie




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Subject: [Consciousness-Online] FW: Dark-Matter Universe?
On Behalf Of Samiya Illias Friday, October 29, 2021 5:32 PM 
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Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe? See if this is of any help: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2021/08/adams-covenant-expulsion-overview.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2021%2F08%2Fadams-covenant-expulsion-overview.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea890176a1f24979ff2a08d99f19f387%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637715756077967844%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=1wELQyHBPbkjdGUWySk3RWl8%2BXJGYmysBjkGqV%2FzaoY%3D&reserved=0>
[Philip Benjamin]
How is this of any help? None whatsoever!! It is irrational that Fritz Zwicky’s 
(1933) missing matter confirmed by Veera Rubin in the 1960’s which constitute 
about 95% of the universe be deprived of any extraordinary chemistry and only 
5% of the known matter of the Universe can have ordinary chemistry. I remember 
when I first proposed that idea a WAMP told me to shut up lest I be considered 
a fool, another told me that he will pack me up and return to my old country, 
yet another ridiculed that I am implying that “spirits” exist, et., etc.
Call it by any name you want to—spirit, soul or jinn or atman—laws of chemistry 
are universal and applicable to ALL matter. And if it leads to a non-electric, 
non-entropic, enduring being of negligible mass, so be it. That is called 
SCIENCE, not religion..
Thanks, anyway!!
Philip Benjamin
[http://darkmatternatureofscience.weebly.com/-zwicky.html In 1933 Zwicky 
discovered a discrepancy between the luminous mass that could be calculated in 
a galaxy due to observations motion in reference to the stars, and the mass 
calculated based on a galaxies velocity using the "spatial distribution test", 
as well as the "virial theorem" on galaxies in the "Coma Cluster]
On Behalf Of Samiya Illias Friday, October 29, 2021 5:32 PM 
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Subject: Re: Dark-Matter Universe?
See if this is of any help: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2021/08/adams-covenant-expulsion-overview.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2021%2F08%2Fadams-covenant-expulsion-overview.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cea890176a1f24979ff2a08d99f19f387%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637715756077977799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=T6IGKkgaDO%2F4Ca84pYTDuBh%2Bf0R%2FkMjD4RHAgmcVKVk%3D&reserved=0>
On 29-Oct-2021, at 8:02 PM, Philip Benjamin 
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 [Jesse Mazer]
“ So when you say dark and light matter "interact with each other", are you 
just saying that dark matter particles interact with one another in a way 
that's analogous to how regular atoms interact? Or are you saying that dark 
matter can interact with normal matter in a way that produces "reciprocal 
motion", "resonance structures" etc.?”
[Philip Benjamin]
No, not particles per se, but “chemical bonds”—Light & Dark- can interact. I 
have nor so far come across the impossibility of dark matter interacting with 
ITSELF, though nothing yet to explain how it does!! For the sake of
.

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