Right now, it's time to remain easy, with an understanding that what occurred in Europe during Merkel's reign plus the US withdrawal in Afghanistan may have led to a change in perceptions in Moscow, and in Beijing. This is wholly Putin's war now, and from what I just read is not concerned with the re-establishment of the Soviet Union (as I had thought) but the re-establishment of the Russian Empire. We;ll see if this seems true, and what needs to be done to get us all into 'survival mode.'
-----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Feb 27, 2022 7:34 am Subject: Re: Ukraine If American or NATO forces start shooting with Russian military it would project us into a new world. The whole situation could easily escalate into a nuclear conflict. The problem is that given the rapid technology involved there would be a compulsion to act swiftly and pre-emptively. LC On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 5:13:41 PM UTC-6 Bruce wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 10:04 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: It's not a question of sympathy, but of utility. What would happen if NATO launched an all-out cruise missile assault on Moscow and Petersburg? Not nuclear, purely conventional. No "boots on the ground", but some serious rethinking needed on Russia's part. Just as the retaliatory British bombing of Berlin in WW2 caused Hitler to loose his cool and gave Britain an advantage. Of course, Putin might respond with a nuclear assault, but that would certainly render his empire plans futile. It would be a gamble, but I think the odds would be in favour of making Putin pause rather than escalating further. Bruce Brent On 2/26/2022 2:58 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:41 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm fine with seizing the money of Putin and his oligarch buddies. I'm less sanguine about just impoverishing the Russian people. When one country decides to make war on it's neighbor misery is the inevitable result, certainly the people of Ukraine are feeling it and I'm certain the people of Russia will too. Call me a monster if you want but at this moment I feel far less sympathy for the invading country than the country being invaded. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b855c3b8-ff17-4829-bff8-5ade780d7109n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/986291639.1632250.1646019157541%40mail.yahoo.com.

