On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 2:27 AM Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
*> It has taken almost 20 years, but finally you acknowledge first person > indeterminacy...* Well.... I have always acknowledged that if a conscious brain is exactly duplicated then there is only 1 conscious experience not 2 because the 2 brains are identical and identical objects do identical things in identical circumstances. And I have always acknowledged that if a single change is then made, one remembers seeing Moscow but the other remembers seeing Helsinki, then there are now 2 brains producing 2 different conscious experiences. And I have always insisted, and still insist, that after the duplication has been made but before an observation is allowed, it would be meaningless to ask if you are The Moscow Man or The Helsinki Man because neither The Moscow Man or the Helsinki Man will exist until Moscow and Helsinki are observed and a memory is made to differentiate the 2. And I certainly think it is absolutely ridiculous to claim a great discovery and base a philosophy on nothing but a grammatical quirk in the English language and in most if not all human languages; in particular in the way they use personal pronouns such as "you"; that word works fine in everyday life but certainly *NOT* when posing thought experiments designed to probe the fundamental nature of personal identity. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> nte -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2W7hvpwXHRs%3Db4_B61wEpHOqT7Lej4qsu1MozS0yjscQ%40mail.gmail.com.