Briefly, a lot to read and little time today - I have a hell of a lot to
read :-)

I recall it suggested they need re-creating, or if you're lucky just to be
re-validated and the Outlook bar reset.

That's why I'm torn between the 2003 consolidation features and the 5.5 MSW
- for a small single server like ours with some mailboxes and no connectors
the MSW seems a simple option to get the sites merged, but there's so little
practical info that I can find about it outside of the readme - you'd think
Microsoft made it and nobody ever used it.

Paul
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Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
> Sent: 17 January 2006 19:35
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> 
> Have you looked at the Solution Accelerator?  there's a bit 
> in there about 
> the client profiles.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:31 AM
> Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> Thanks Missy.  Don't get me wrong here I'm always grateful 
> for good advice,
> but I suspect I shall stay on the over cautious side and keep 
> their mail
> local.
> 
> I'll look into the cross-site mailbox move method.  So long 
> as it will pull
> stuff from a 5.5 server in one site to a 2003 server in 
> another site that
> should do the trick.
> 
> If I do it that way I'll have to visit at some point so I can 
> take care of
> any Outlook Profile issues at the same time.
> 
> thanks,
> Paul
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
> > Sent: 17 January 2006 18:23
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> >
> > Seriously, 2mbps for 35 users is totally enough bandwidth. I
> > think you're
> > being overly cautious here.
> >
> > You would not be using the Move Server Wizard if you followed
> > my suggestion.
> > That's a PITA way to do this. MUCH simpler to do the
> > cross-site mailbox
> > moves. This can be fairly simple, really.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:36 AM
> > Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> >
> >
> > There's only around 35 mailboxes on it, private store is 
> around 6.5gb.
> >
> > I take the point about cached mode Outlook 2003 and running
> > things over the
> > WAN, but it's only a 2mbps links.  IMHO as they already have
> > good server
> > hardware the cost of an Exchange 2003 Server license isn't
> > huge, so I'd want
> > to keep their mail local to them.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any advice on the best plan of attack on how
> > to deal with
> > their site.
> >
> > I figured it made sense to have a single site from an admin
> > POV - as you say
> > maybe I should think "mailboxes" more than "sites".  I guess
> > another option
> > would be to put a temporary 2003 server in there as a member
> > of our main
> > site, use the cross-site mailbox utils to move mailboxes to
> > that server,
> > then reinstall current server/site into the main site - end
> > result single
> > site?
> >
> > How transparent does Exchange 2003 make a cross-site mailbox
> > move though?
> >
> > TBH my main concern with the move server wizard is less to do
> > with moving
> > the server and more to do with if everyone will need their
> > Outlook profile
> > rebuilding and the "what happens with recipient containers" issue.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
> > > Sent: 17 January 2006 17:09
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> > >
> > > E2K3 SP1 allows for cross-site mailbox moves, which makes
> > the upgrade
> > > easier. Don't think on a scale of servers, think on a scale
> > > of mailboxes as
> > > object here.
> > >
> > > There's no need to move the 5.5 server - how many users are
> > > on that server?
> > > Unless you answer "500" or more, I'd consolidate to one
> > > server -- of course,
> > > take this with a grain of salt, as I know little about the
> > > number of folks
> > > in your organization.  But there's definitely another option
> > > here than the
> > > one you're presenting, and it's worth thinking about.
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:29 AM
> > > Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm thanks for that, that's interesting.  The way I
> > understood it 2003
> > > didn't come with anything to let you move a server like
> > that, just to
> > > move/consolidate mailboxes?
> > >
> > > At some point in the future we will be upgrading them to
> > > 2003, it's just not
> > > a priority - I understood that however you choose to do
> > > things, once you
> > > have a 2003 server in a site you can't move a 5.5 server into
> > > that site?
> > >
> > > I'm downloading that tool as I speak so I'll see what that offers.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
> > > > Sent: 16 January 2006 20:20
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> > > >
> > > > It's actually easier to get Exchange 2003 installed and then
> > > > flatten the
> > > > organization - E2K3 SP1 has some nice site and server
> > > > consolidation tools.
> > > > The Solution Accelerator for Exchange Consolidation and 
> Migration
> > > > (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/ucs/ecm/saecm/de
> > > > fault.mspx)
> > > > has a lot of information about this.
> > > >
> > > > Missy
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:59 AM
> > > > Subject: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a 5.5 organization consisting of 2 sites.
> > > >
> > > > The main site is running 5.5 and I'm about to order the
> > hardware for
> > > > Exchange 2003.
> > > >
> > > > The smaller site is a remote office, the single server down
> > > there is a
> > > > Windows 2000 domain controller running 5.5 SP4 with 35
> > > > mailboxes on it, for
> > > > the moment there's no plan to migrate them to 2003 but we
> > > might do so.
> > > >
> > > > The only connectors in the remote site are the directory
> > replication
> > > > connector and the site connector, and being the only server
> > > > it's both the
> > > > first and last server in the site.
> > > >
> > > > Before I look at installing the ADC and moving the main site
> > > > to Exchange
> > > > 2003 I'd like to flatten things so that I only have a single
> > > > Exchange 5.5
> > > > site - the only reason for having the two 5.5 sites was 
> to control
> > > > replication/message traffic.  All administration is handled
> > > > by me, so I
> > > > believe what I should have before is a single 5.5 site
> > > which will then
> > > > become a single Administrative Group with 2 routing groups
> > > *if* I find
> > > > traffic is a problem.
> > > >
> > > > From the documentation, it looks pretty straightforward:
> > > >
> > > > Replicate public folders from that site to ours
> > > > Remove the event service
> > > > Remove the directory/site connectors
> > > > Run the wizard
> > > > Recreate all users Outlook Profiles
> > > >
> > > > What I'm not sure of if is firstly if there's anything to be
> > > > aware of that
> > > > the documentation doesn't cover?
> > > >
> > > > Secondly, we have recipient containers in both sites (from
> > > before the
> > > > previous admins RTFM) and the documentation doesn't seem to
> > > cover what
> > > > happens with these - if they get created in the destination
> > > > site, or if they
> > > > get moved into a default container in the destination site?
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > > Paul
> > > > --
> > > > Paul Hutchings
> > > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
> > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
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