On your comment about Oh, and by the way, how much is that actually taking up on your server? 1GB? Not with single instance storage! ------------------------------------------- I think you might not quite understand the problem with SIS, it is only good for when the email is being sent in transit because as soon as it arrives and the person replies to it with Outlook, bingo no more SIS for that message. My last place of work and current we get roughly 1.3 ratio.
Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -----Original Message----- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas Yes I've worked in small companies. And I've sold to small companies. I dare say that I understand the dynamics fairly well. Disk space, tape space, and backup time are all simple issues, present them to the purse strings and let them make the decision. 1GB of saved email? You aren't even in the big leagues here. I'd say that well over 50% of the users on this list have one ore more mailboxes with 1GB storage. Oh, and by the way, how much is that actually taking up on your server? 1GB? Not with single instance storage! And as I said, the 90%-10% rule goes to work. No, my regards of a TB as small doesn't mean that I don't know the small business environment, it only means that I work with a large range of customers. But I also know that 1TB isn't that expensive anymore. That's only seven 160GB drives. I've known many small companies with seven drive servers. When 4GB drives were common, it wasn't that odd to have that many drives. Yes, I know that you often have to beg and plead with a customer to get a tape backup. So? That's what I'm saying. The customer (aka "business drivers") get to make the decisions. Don't assume that they always want everything. Don't assume that they want nothing. I've seen too many situations where IT people say that management doesn't want to do something and then someone puts together a quick business case and it goes through unhampered. But the most important thing here is to make believable and knowledgeable recommendations to the business drivers. Make sure that your recommendations are prudent. Understand what levels of spending the business drivers are making. Know what to recommend and when to recommend it. It's a big deal making sure that you are forecasting your needs correctly and getting them into the budget cycle. Make longer term, comprehensive plans. Do you have your email storage charted out for the next 5 years? Do you have growth projections and timelines that new servers or disks will have to come online? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:11 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: Unlimited Quotas Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, at 10:47pm, Woodrick, Ed wrote: > And as to disk drives, I can speak pretty knowledgeably in this > situation, there is virtually no storage limitations within Exchange > that impacts the per user storage. Yah, and what about when you run out of physical disk space, or tape space, or backup time? "Buy more/better equipment", you say, but have you ever worked in small company environment, where investing money in IT can sometimes require something close to an act of Congress? > And as to users keeping things forever, that's pretty much hogwash. You don't have our customers, then. We've got several people in several different organizations that have over one *gigabyte* of saved mail data. And we are by no means a large company. > That means that even something as small as a TB requires well over > 1,000 users. The fact that your regard one terabyte as "small" indicates that you don't really understand the small business situation, where we often have to beg and plead with the customer to buy a 20 GB tape backup drive. Quote policy is something that should be done on a case-by-case basis. Blanket statements about what is applicable are bogus. 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