--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> You will "have time" only if Jim allows you > to. He creates the world, remember?
> Sorry Barr, it doesn't work that way. Despite your humorous attempt to > make me responsible for the universe you create, you have created your > own universe all by yourself, and continue to do so. Own your stuff > please. what other choice do you have? The resident FFL self-appointed 'enlightened guy' preaches contemporary new age baloney by suggesting that there are as many universes as people - as if there is no *universal* objective/subjective reality. Take your pick between the new age baloney the self-proclaimed 'enlightened guy' preaches or what Guru Dev says about it here: SAT CHIT ANANDA ~~~ The form of happiness then is the form of sachchidananda (truth, consciousness, bliss) is really Paramatma and from coming in contact with that the jiva can become happy and there is no other way to be happy. ~~~ A few people are getting up and having a big argument to measure and distinguish saakaara (with form) and niraakaara (formless) separately. If you accept paramaatmaa [God] is all-powerful then how can you say afterwards that he is not with form or that he is really shapeless? If you have been accepting that paramaatmaa is all-powerful, it is improper to say that he is niraakaara (formless), that he is not having form. When he is said to be free and independent then what can he not be and what can he not do? Bhagavan is nirguNa (without qualities) and saguNa (endowed with qualities). The way of the group of those who believe in nirguNa [without qualities alone] spread more wickedness because these people do not accept the manifest form of Bhagavan [God] and suppose that the niraakaara [formless] cannot see or hear. So they do their mind's desires; they have no concern for what is wicked and what is sacred. ~~ Swami Brahmananda Saraswati - Guru Dev [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 88 of 108] Only by contact with Paramatma (God, the Supreme Self) can there be true happiness for the jiva (the individual soul) since in that is the highest happiness. [...] If one has something, the very same one can give to another. To demand any money from a pauper would really be a folly then. Wealth of that kind can only be gained by going to a mass of wealth, only from a treasury of knowledge can knowledge be gained, that kind of treasure-house of happiness / form of happiness is who Bhagavan (the supreme Being) is, really only from them can happiness be gained. In worldly existence devotees of Bhagavan are left to be vessels of grace and nobody else is happy. Only those devotees who desire spiritual contemplation of Paramatma have an experience of happiness - otherwise to all, little-by-little only suffering slowly is lived. In worldly existence nobody is found to be happy. If someone has a lack of something they regard someone who has that as the way to happiness. But the one who has, does not see regard themselves as happy. He who has no son regards the one with sons as happy, but from the son how much happiness is there, ask this of any with sons. It is already known, in truth in anything else earthly and material there is no happiness. The form of happiness then is the form of sachchidananda (truth, consciousness, bliss) is really Paramatma and from coming in contact with that the jiva can become happy and there is no other way to be happy. Actually, Paramatma is like a "general merchant" in whose place there is no deficiency of any articles of happiness. But in order to gain his grace regular effort is required, not only some reading of the greatness of Paramatma. By studying an catalogue how can you become wealthy? To wish for happiness from worldly people is a mistake. ...how can someone who is himself unhappy make another happy? In worldly life those who are seen as happy, that is relative happiness. By any one thing someone is happy then someone is happy in another part. If you are to ask for any happiness then beg from this place, from wherever all happiness can be gained. Remember this that whoever bows in the direction of Paramatma the very same can obtain happiness and peace in worldly existence, otherwise not. To search for happiness in worldly existence is similar to quenching one's thirst by collecting drops of dew. ~~ Swami Brahmananda Saraswati - Guru Dev [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 1 of 108] All links: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm
