--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2010, at 11:25 AM, tartbrain wrote:
> <snip>
> > > I found the rapid and deep cycles of breath in TMSP much
> > > like AoL sahdarshan kriya. Huge amounts of prana are injected
> > > into the system with TMSP.
> >
> > I've never learned the sudarshan-kriya, but always enjoyed
> > the fast pranayama in the TMSP.
>
> I could be wrong, but I don't think tartbrain is referring
> to the fast pranayama that we do as part of the TM-Sidhis
> program. Below he refers to it as "*spontaneous* deep and
> rapid breathing" in a sentence that distinguishes it from
> pranayama:
>
> > > So with pranayam, TMSP spontaneous deep and rapid breathing,
> > > and TM refined breath and prana
>
> If it's spontaneous, it's not the fast pranayama technique,
> since that's done quite deliberately. I suspect he's
> talking about the spontaneous "bellows breathing" that
> sometimes occurs during the Yogic Flying portion of the
> program, not the fast pranayama we do after asanas and
> before meditiation.
>
> Vaj has confused the two once before, claiming that hopping
> is an "artifact" of fast pranayama (regardless of the fact
> that it's done before meditation, long before one begins
> sutra practice, let alone Yogic Flying). Spontaneous bellows
> breathing, in contrast, appears to be an artifact of the
> Yogic Flying sutra.
>
> Either he was and is attempting to mislead, or he's never
> practiced the TM-Sidhi program.
>
* * * Are those really the only two options?
