--- In [email protected], "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > I am fairly new around here, and I guess I haven't mastered the method > of tracking down a post that I once read. For instance, your query about > Werner Erhard. Can't find it anywhere, and I have searched long enough. > But I would like to elaborate on that incident which I described when > Werner attacked me physically (along with his assistants). > > Uh, you kind of wimped out on this part, (at least in this post). I > kept reading through the more philosophical parts to get the "attack" > part, but it never really came. "He attacked me" You see this on the > 10:00 news a lot. Not exactly bait and switch. More like get the > reader interested, but don't quite deliver the goods.
RESPONSE: 1. As soon as I stood up to speak Werner immediately approached me physically while simultaneously motioning to his assistants (two) to help him prevent me from continuing to speak. 2. Werner was speaking over my voice as these two men gripped my shoulders tightly, lifting me off the ground, carrying me out of the room, where they dropped me down and closed the door. (Werner initially also inhibited my physical freedom by putting his hands on my body. He then gave way to his assistants and resumed his lecture) 3. I suppose this was before teachers were not allowed to apply corporal punishment to their pupils, or parents allowed to spank their children. Obviously Werner would never get away with this violence [legal assault and battery] these daysand his act would have been viewed as indefensible. 4. Finally, if what I have said here is untrue, then Werner would deem this story libellous. Landmark Education (even more so than Scientology) have lawyers who will go after anyone who tries to tarnish the good name of their avatar. 5. I had light bruises on my arms from being ejected from Werner's lecture. The Landmark/Werner people: they do their business through word of mouth only. But they keep their ears to the ground, and it is quite possible one or more of them will challenge my accountmaybe it has already happened. Love that Werner fella. Such a nice human being. See? Even after being purportedly enlightened (now not enlightened) I still have hatred in my heart. But that Werner Erhard, he almost could give Maharishi a run for his money. But Maharishi would, in a one-on-one encounter (in the seventies at least) somehow blow Werner out of the water, for MMY's context (also in the end deceitful in my opinion) was more powerful than Werner's, which is why, as the so-called enlightened guy (via TM and MMY), I figured I could take the measure of Wernerand believe I would have done so had he not physically prevented me. But Werner would have insisted he only acted on the basis of protocol. He was a stickler for rules, as you may know. If someone violated those rules, one must show no mercy. Werner believes his metaphysical totalitarianism forces the truth out of people. So, from his point of view, the strict enforcement of rules insures that his reality is triumphant in the end, and in effect, is the guardian of the integrity of the person who is the potential beneficiary of his system. But I choose to put a more self-serving interpretation upon his act: He had a distinct presentiment that he was going to be challenged in a way that might just smash open the metaphysical falseness of his context. Not that he knew it was false. But before I spoke, he periodically stared at me, as if to say: "Don't you dare say anything". [He already knew all about me, and could not misread the significance of my presence in a lecture that was closed to his teachers and his staff. Someone had betrayed him.] By the way, when is someone on this blog going to out and out agree with me on something? It's starting to rankle, this constant challenging of what I have to say. Isn't there SOMEONE out there willing to become a devotee of the ex-enlightened man? Thanks, by the way, seventhray1. As a famous saint once said (and I believe her): "Everything is grace". But you have to really 'get' [thanks for annexing so perfectly that word, Werner] what she means. When you do, it makes sense of EVERYTHING. But, as you know, it all depends on your level of consciousness (MMY). >
