On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:

> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> > <anartaxius@> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Judy is good at comparing what someone wrote at one time
> > > compared to another and dealing with precise phraseology,
> > > but I am not sure she always is able to distinguish between
> > > irony, malice, and simple missteps of the tongue.
> > 
> > Got an example?
> 
> I did not think Skolnick, in his JAMA article was malicious or untrue, based 
> on my own experiences with the TM orgs. Yet you presented him as an habitual 
> liar. I think he was doing a good job as a medical journalist. I do not feel 
> your characterisation of him is correct. I do not think of you as a liar, but 
> something seems to be getting you riled up. If you are feeling angry at these 
> people, I would wonder what the source really is. Anger destroys balance of 
> mind, I know this from first hand experience, and the source of that anger 
> may be completely hidden in us, it is seldom the current situation that is 
> the source, the current situation is the trigger.


It would probably be more accurate to describe Skolnick as a consummate medical 
journalist who also happens to be well aware of the TM Orgs typical means and 
methods - and as an ethical journalist he was outraged at what he saw. Thus he 
acted accordingly, applying the tools of his trade and a finely honed sense of 
medical ethics.

TB's and TM-TB's were outraged as they had never seen through the charade and 
often they simply did not have the requisite knowledge of the subject at hand 
to even understand what was being said. But, like soldiers with blindfolds on, 
they desperately waged their verbal war and disinformation psy-ops campaign.

The problem is, scientists in general will state the facts and move on. In 
cults or cult-like groups, they will continue to engage in their "battle". In 
the age of the internet, that means they will then saturate the web with their 
disinformation. New studies will be performed and that fudged data will then be 
pushed to the web and various media outlets to try to cover the old bullshit 
data.

When a particular zealot has their ass handed to them on a plate by someone 
like Skolnick or Knapp, and that person has a personality disorder, it's not 
unusual to see them spend their life, still waging an imaginary war for an 
imaginary product that only ever existed in their heads and in their hastily 
acquired programming.

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