--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@...> wrote:

M: Did the *attack the confidence* formulaic routine work well for you when you 
were surrounded by 20 somethings Robin?  How has it been working for you lately?



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> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> 
> ANN: I say this because I don't really sense that
> your "rageful, reality-obfuscating dirty fighter" phrase as doing you the
> justice it could if you were to dig a little deeper to find the one that is 
> just
> right. The one that fits your feelings right now but doesn't do you an
> injustice.
> 
> M: Perhaps a review process is in order for Share. She could send you her
> posts before posting them, and they could be evaluated for how much they do
> justice to her.
> 
> I think there is more than a little Robin left in you Ann. (I hope that was
> "just right".)
> 
> Oh yeah, and the doormouse thing is just totally condescending, there is no
> other way to spin that.
> 
> Here was your intent tell:
> 
> "Here is the thing, dear Share,"
> 
> You kinda know what's coming after that.
> 
> RESPONSE: If any reader examines what Curtis has said here, there is a kind 
> of hidden a priori psychology. And what is that a priori? That somehow the 
> force and imperiousness of the personality of Curtis can be a substitute for 
> any contact with the truth of the matter.
> 
> Notice that Curtis perfectly deprives the impartial reader of any chance to 
> subject this difference of point of view to a fair hearing *independent of 
> the peremptory and despotic authority of Curtis*. Curtis takes on the entire 
> burden of the proof of his argument here--in the absence of any possibility 
> of having this matter adjudicated by a context within which Curtis himself 
> exists. Curtis annexes the context of truth through sheer dint of will and 
> personality.
> 
> It is certainly a spectacular phenomenon to witness [Hold it, Curtis: I will 
> have no respect for you whatsover *if you use the very mechanism I am 
> describing here to evade facing the inevitability of my analysis*--So 
> STFU--unless you are prepared to address my argument on its own terms]: 
> Curtis lords it over everyone, and kills the possibility of a context which 
> is opposed to Curtis getting a hearing.
> 
> You see, Curtis is so scrupulously sensitive to the truth, that he knows how 
> important it is to keep that truth from undermining or refuting him. So he 
> just banishes it from existence and appropriates the context totally with the 
> force of his personality. 
> 
> But of course all this is hidden from view. Look: There is some disagreement 
> between this person (whom Curtis is addressing here) and Curtis. But instead 
> of taking on the most generous and sincere motive which could lie behind the 
> comments this person has made to Share Long, Curtis would judge them out of 
> court categorically: as if to say: I have caught you in an utterly dishonest 
> and manipulative form of behaviour, and you had better just own up. You are 
> judged and sentenced; the execution awaits my discretion.
> 
> I wish those readers at FFL who seek some form of contact with reality, with 
> what is the case, will see that Curtis operates under a set of ruthless and 
> intolerant rules. His judgment does not suffer from some subjectively 
> experienced doubt when he makes his argument. But this is because he simply 
> eliminates all of the reality which existed inside the context where the 
> issue is being controverted, and substitutes his own context, which will not 
> permit any appeal to a truth which Curtis has determined is a moral and 
> intellectual inconvenience to him.
> 
> Curtis has a secret ex cathedra way of writing. One does not notice it; one 
> is influenced by the illusion that his confidence *must mean he is in contact 
> with the truth*; but as it happens, in disputation at least, Curtis's 
> confidence and authority is directly proportional to the truth which he is 
> denying entrance into the discussion.
>  
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Supplying some mental floss for this exchange and just in case Judy's 
> > > > use of quotation marks is obfuscating, I'm sure it's not me she is 
> > > > quoting as I did not write those words.  Or even think them.  Maybe 
> > > > herself?  Or someone from another decade?  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > PS  I'd rather be a supposed "pompous, reality-avoiding dormouse" than 
> > > > a rageful, reality-obfuscating dirty fighter. 
> > > 
> > > Here is the thing, dear Share, although you have obviously taken 
> > > exception to the metaphor of the dormouse as pertaining to you, it was a 
> > > rather charming, in an interesting way, image and not one to get overly 
> > > excited about. (See my photo of a rather adorable dormouse). On the other 
> > > hand, I know you can do better in your description of Judy so that it 
> > > encompasses not only your feelings (which seem to be hurt) as well as a 
> > > degree of truthfulness and therefore potency without the ugly-esh 
> > > negativity. I say this because I don't really sense that your "rageful, 
> > > reality-obfuscating dirty fighter" phrase as doing you the justice it 
> > > could if you were to dig a little deeper to find the one that is just 
> > > right. The one that fits your feelings right now but doesn't do you an 
> > > injustice.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  BTW, The previous sentence shows the clean fighting way of using 
> > > quotation marks as the words enclosed therein were actually written by a 
> > > FFL poster.    
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >  From: authfriend <authfriend@>
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:10 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy & everyone -- writing for the 
> > > > Church of $cientology
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My apologies to everyone including Judy for my part in
> > > > > this disagreement.  If anyone has questions or concerns
> > > > > about my part in it or in the one with Robin, again my
> > > > > request is that you email me directly for sake of
> > > > > sparing the forum any further negativity.
> > > > 
> > > > "Especially the negativity of having my mistakes and
> > > > falsehoods called to my attention. I really hate that."
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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