--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Yes, I've known a number of women who either had been or were
> > then currently strippers.
> > 
> > I'm curious - you seemed to have been saying that my (or anyone
> > else's) opinion could not possibly have any value if I didn't 
> > know any 
> > strippers.  Are you now going to take my statement that I do as 
> > proof that my opinion has value, or will you now display this as
> > "proof" of how (and all those like me, of course) horrible I am
> > to women and how much I dislike them?
> 
> WEre they your friends, or were you sleeping with them?

This warrants revisiting.

One, sparaig seems to think that there of necessity 
has to be a difference.  That's pretty sad in itself.

Two, I think that anyone who has read his description
of the strippers he's talked to know that they would
*not* consider him to be a friend.  He looks down upon
them too much.

FYI, the women I talked to at the strip club in Detroit
*were* my friends.  They knew that I never sat at the
edge of the stage and stuffed dollar bills in their 
G-strings.  They knew that I wasn't interested in lap
dances.  I was interested in *them*.  

I took advantage of the club's free limo service and
sat at their bar for a while before each flight home.
While sitting there, I wrote stories.  Some of them
were about the women I met; when they were, I gave
them a copy.  I was sorta like their pet, their artist-
in-residence, like Toulouse-Lautrec was in Paris or
Hokusai was in Kyoto.  I was there because I liked the
bar (it was really high-tech and had the nicety of a
digital readout above the bar of all the departing
flights, so that you could keep track of when you had
to leave for the actual airport).  

And I liked the company.  The women related to me 
because I treated them like women, not strippers.  We
laughed togther and had fun and talked like any two
other human beings would laugh and talk.

Maybe if you tried a little of this with your stripper
"friends" instead of seeing in them only what your
hangups have programmed you to see, they might actually 
become your friends, too.








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