--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Objectification appears to stem, at least in part, from media > sources. > > This links to prior post that posits that the level gender > > objectification would be the same, regardless if all strip clubs, and > > other sex workers, were shut down overnight. > > > > > > http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/objectification.html > > > > The findings from the two studies suggest that even exposure to > > seemingly innocuous sexually suggestive ads can lead to disturbing > > antifemale sentiments such as objectification. An interesting > > observation was the finding that the constructs of male and female > > objectification are conceptually distinct. The null findings for > > 'Mediated Objectification' in Study 2 also suggests the possible > > operation of the availability heuristic in Study 1. While the effects > > observed here pertain to short-term effects only, future research > > will benefit by examining the effects of prolonged exposure to > > sexually suggestive material. > > Again, it isn't merely the objectivation that is the problem. > Unless you're in a completely romantic mode, sex ALWAYS involves > at least a bit of objectification on the part of both males and > females.
Then what IS "the problem?" I'm noticing that Akasha is really onto something with his position in all of this. So far, I don't remember anyone who is on the "anti" side of strip clubs having made a strong argu- ment for WHY they are against them, yourself included. It's like the argument is, "Well, they're bad because they're bad...don't you get that, dummies?" It's striking me very much the same as many Americans' blanket statements about Communism. They feel that just the mention of the word should be enough to invoke distaste and horror. But pin them down, and in my experience 80% of them can't even tell you what Communism IS. They just know it's bad. I appreciate Judy's honest stance in this; she hasn't been able to put her feelings into words about this matter. But others don't seem to have even tried. They just invoke the "Communism" argument. Will *someone* try to put into words why they feel that strip clubs increase the objectification of women? Or whatever other reason you feel that they are not a good idea? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
