dear Ravi, well I guess it's always good to get a second opinion (-:
________________________________ From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuning Into Vedic Radio Dear Share - You need some medication to calm your paranoia and delusions. Your pastoral counselor is clearly enabling your delusional behavior. Give me some examples of their behavior, relevant posts and I will. You are new here, we have had our share of drama on and off. So this vague innuendo doesn't help dear. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Ravi, I still have an appt every Sunday with my very competent pastoral >counselor. That will have to suffice. Now, please show me where you have >challenged Judy or Emily or Raunchy or Ann, thank you. Oh right, they NEVER >say anything that needs to be challenged. Got it in one! > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:02 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuning Into Vedic Radio > > > > >Oh whoa dear Share - you are a dangerous person LOL, unable to distinguish >irony and sarcasm. > > >When I said I don't mess with Judy, Ann, raunchy it was a round-about way of >letting you know that they are strong, mature, intelligent women and that I >respect them for that. No - if there's something they say needs to be >challenged it will be challenged by me, obviously it won't be similar to my >approach with Rory because they haven't made any fanciful, religious >delusional claims so far. > > >Now - get off the list, this is not healthy for you and get some medical help >for paranoid, delusional tendencies. > > > > > > >On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >>Since Judy has brought up psychopathology, I'll mention that it's interesting >>to me that in this post Ann says that she doesn't want to mess with Ravi. >>Ravi himself has said several times that he wouldn't take on Judy or Ann or >>Raunchy. So is this the basis of the supposed friendships between these >>people? That they're afraid of each other? Which is what they accuse me of in >>relation to turq! Can't help but say: go figure! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Ann <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 12:36 AM >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuning Into Vedic Radio >> >> >> >> >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> >>wrote: >>> >>> "From the little I know of Rory he seems a sweet and gentle soul. And he >>> doesn't deserve to be abused." >>> >>> Rory was abused - by whom, when, where, how? >>> >>> Dear Ann - I seriously hope you are not referring to me. I was rude and >>> harsh - on purpose, because the nature of religious delusional beliefs are >>> such, they are very deep rooted, people have so much emotional, >>> psychological investment in it and I cannot leave them unchallenged. I am >>> known to be abusive, but not in this case since as you say Rory is a sweet >>> and gentle soul. But there weren't but sweet and gentle souls around Amma >>> and many on this list as well and I had to be harsh and rude. Of course I >>> am not rude and harsh to everyone - if it's a friend I'm still going to >>> challenge gently and firmly (of course I don't call their beliefs >>> delusional but in my mind I do) and I have challenged however hard and >>> uncomfortable it is to me. Trust me I don't particularly enjoy it. In this >>> case Rory is not particularly a close friend and I preferred to chose the >>> rude, harsh way. >>> >>> The only person I have given a free pass is a 64 year old Jewish gentleman >>> named David around Amma, I met him after my mystical experiences in 2009 - >>> I very much got attracted to David-ji. I consider him as a father figure >>> and he was in charge of cleaning Amma's temple and I helped him and used to >>> obey him unconditionally, first time in my life following the orders of a >>> man in my personal life. So he may talk about Amma as Divine Mother and I >>> give it as pass though I may address it in a roundabout way. I told him I >>> attacked Amma online and he just laughed because he knows me and has seen >>> me as the mad, crazy yogi, an iconoclast who challenges people, mocks >>> people beliefs, push people's buttons. This challenge comes up even as I >>> deal with family members - my dharma, responsibility to love, support them >>> as a son, as a brother, relative vs my need to challenge people's >>> delusional beliefs - it's not easy, I have to assess moment to moment. >>> >>> So there I hope this explains that somehow. Even if you were to come >>> tomorrow come up with a narrative for spiritual experiences, a philosophy I >>> will challenge it Ann even though I like you very much, but obviously >>> gently and firmly. Same applies to any other friend of mine, I am not going >>> to let any religious delusional belief go unchallenged. >> >>Ravi, I admire you in many ways. You are a kind of warrior. I see some of >>myself in you. I fight against and abhor many of the same things you do. I >>recognize many of the same negatives that surround me as manifested by >>others. I go about dealing with these things in my own way but respect how >>each one of the people who I admire at FFL do so in their own manner. >> >>I was not thinking of you specifically when I spoke of any abuse of Rory; it >>was a general statement in response to what Jim wrote and based on some >>personal correspondence with Rory. I don't think Rory was abused by anybody. >>He is a big boy and can say and do whatever he needs to look after himself. >> >>So no, I'll let you know directly if I think you're out of line or abusive. >>So far, so good. Personally, I don't want to mess with you so I'll do my >>damnedest to keep that formidable warrior part of yourself fighting with me, >>not against me. Deal? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Ann <awoelflebater@...> wrote: >>> >>> > ** >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > The party continues...and parties need music... >>> > > >>> > > Bringing you da freshest! >>> > > >>> > > This one is dedicated to Rory, who is truly one of my BFFs, even if I >>> > may agree to disagree with him on the protocol for handling dipsticks. >>> > > >>> > > Tuning Into Vedic Radio (3:30) >>> > > >>> > > https://app.box.com/s/2hx2rylk73cy5vi8p1ot >>> > > >>> > > copyright Temple Dog 2013 >>> > >>> > Well then, Rory is blessed with a good friend in you, Doc. From the little >>> > I know of Rory he seems a sweet and gentle soul. And he doesn't deserve to >>> > be abused. Now I'll listen to your song, and thank you. >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
