--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
>  
> > > For the majority of people, what is so rapid about TM
> > > other than as a belief system?
> > > 
> > 
> > Dunno. You find research on other meditation techniques of people 
> > reporting 24/7 witnessing for years at a time, or breath 
suspension 
> > associated with reports of samadhi.
> 
> Your "research" is done by TBs within the org. and published by its
> own journals - 

Pubmed doesn't list any TMO journal. The Esalen Institute isn't a TMO 
affiliate. 


every group has stories of its accomplishments and
> superiority.  Your group's philosophy values subjective experiences 
of
> "witnessing" and breath suspension and so that's what the stories
> focus on.  Other groups may not value those at all within its 
concept
> of enlightenment.  
> 
> The one TM study that clearly meets objective research criteria and
> that I think everyone would view as a positive benefit is reduction 
of
> blood pressure.

Hmmmm. You're familiar with all TM studies?

> 
> There are innumerable studies showing physiological changes 
associated
> with a whole variety of mental practices.
>

As I mentioned earlier, the Esalen Institute has a summary of 4 
thousand meditation studies. Less than 20% of them concern TM.






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