on 11/12/05 10:56 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 11/12/05 9:33 PM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> To think that the primary technique of TM would EVER take a back > seat >>> to Haglin's pseudo-scientific Siddhi's program is amazing to me. >> >> Why are you attributing ownership or authorship of the Sidhi > program to >> Hagelin? Hagelin wasn't a major player in the movement when > Maharishi came >> out with the sidhi program. Sounds to me like you're trying to > shift blame >> away from Maharishi. Common mistake. He calls the shots and always > has. Deal >> with it. > > I'm implying that MMY has swallowed Hagelin's research as 'proof'! I > think the jury is still out as to the relative numbers required to > create such an effect. I realize that it was at the suggestion > of 'another' yogi (apparently) that MMY came out with this totally > premature yogic flying, etc. MMY really thinks you only need the > square root of 1% of the population (yada, yada) to shift trends in > the world...BASED ON HAGELIN'S RESEARCH! Who's the Yogi and who's the > chela now??? Hummm, think about it, it explains everything!
The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the guy MMY was propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the details of that whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip to India during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the Westerners. So Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began experimenting on half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this account from one of them). The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect came out when Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in the UK in which one of the slogans was "you can be one of the 99 if you can get one of your friends to be the one." Square root of 1% came out soon after the sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It was still Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded the research. In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was bandied about before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent countless hours discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was foisted on him by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots. He was tickled pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get 10% of the world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't think this particular point has much to do with the failure of the movement. Although the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable folks who were beginning to take it seriously. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/