I completely disagree with your analys simply because TM isn't 
necessary repetition at all.

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hagen J. Holtz" 
> >> > The way I heard the story, it was the Shankaracharya, or the 
> >> MMY was
> >> > propping up as the Shankaracharya (I can't begin to keep the
> >> details of that
> >> > whole mess straight) who suggested to MMY, during a quick trip 
> >> India
> >> > during the Fiuggi course, that he offer something more to the
> >> Westerners. So
> >> > Maharishi pulled out a copy of the Yoga Sutras and began
> >> experimenting on
> >> > half a dozen of the M-group types around him (I got this 
> >> from one of
> >> > them).
> This seems to be mere speculation without argumentative basis. It 
is the 
> same way typically mystifying circumstances as you are claiming 
them instead 
> of as "to have been the cause of Maharishi's decision".
> The Siddhis are the logic consequence out of TM. Look into the 
> Samyama-principle: Dharana ("fixing"), dhyana ("gliding") and 
> ("landing"). These three parameters (always) form the natural 
movement of 
> the mind. The result is "concentrating" (ekagrata parinama). In TM 
you start 
> with fixing the mantra in a repetitive manner. The emphasis is on 
> Due to the three-guna principle the result is samadhi. In the 
siddhis the 
> fixing aspect is being put into the back-ground. Emphasis is on 
> ("coming back to the simplest form of awareness" -= siddhi-
instruction). By 
> this you pass through samadhi and end up in dharana (fixation = 
> manifestation). This is pure applicable science of mind.
> The sidhis didn't come out until 1977. The 1% effect came
> >> out when
> >> > Domash was reigning physicist in 1974. There was a campaign in
> > the
> >> UK in
> >> > which one of the slogans was "you can be one of the 99 if you 
> >> get one of
> >> > your friends to be the one." Square root of 1% came out soon
> > after
> >> the
> >> > sidhis, and Domash or Hagelin was physicist at that point. It 
> >> still
> >> > Domash until about 1980. Anyway, I think the theory preceded 
> >> research.
> Yes you think but you don't know it. And anyhow it would not have 
made any 
> difference: In Science either theory precedes experience or vice 
versa. This 
> is nothing unusual. Important is that later on theory and practice 
or the 
> other way round have to match this or that way.
> >> > In other words, the theory of 1% or square root of 1% was 
> >> about
> >> > before any societal testing was done. And Maharishi spent
> > countless
> >> hours
> >> > discussing this and lecturing about it. It's not like it was
> >> foisted on him
> >> > by cunning physicists. As always, he was calling the shots.
> Was there any harm in it ?
>  He
> > was
> >> tickled
> >> > pink to get a theory that would absolve him from having to get
> > 10%
> >> of the
> >> > world's population meditating, or even 1%. Anyway, I don't 
> >> this
> >> > particular point has much to do with the failure of the 
> For sure he was looking for some more efficient formula. But this 
was just 
> for principle reasons and has nothing to do with how many people 
were meant 
> to be practicing TM.
> The failure of the movement is by the way its present success. 99% 
of the 
> TM-Teachers all over the world have been leaving the movement. Many 
of them 
> are still teaching. That is, what Maharishi wanted. Because it 
secured that 
> the secret agents in the movement have no access anymore to destroy 
> movement. Their assumed success of having been destroying now had 
become a 
> success for Maharishi to have made so many minds become 
independent, not 
> anymore bound to the master. This is the lesson of freedom 
Maharishi taught 
> to us. He is always one step ahead.
> The ideal of 10,000 or so at one place can grow now from the very 
grass root 
> level. Once it has been established from there it will never be 
> anymore. Maharishi 1979 in Seelisberg: "I have to play a global 
game, which 
> you may not understand, but which will prevent the movement from 
> destruction. I have to keep the appearance of the movement 
ridiculous. Those 
> who are able to think from the heart will yet join and be with us."
> It is now up to us to organize and realize this ideal step by step.
> >> Although
> >> > the advent of the sidhis sure scared off a lot of respectable
> > folks
> >> who were
> >> > beginning to take it seriously.
> What should these folks have been taking more serious than the 
siddhis and 
> scientific research on TM ? All this sounds a bit talkative from 
your end.
> In order to reach Kaivalya even the Karma Mimamsa Sutras and the 
> Sutras have to be practiced according to the Samyama-Principle. 
Only under 
> these circumstances the Siddhis could unfold to full extent anyhow.
> >>
> >> Thanks Rick, for the History lesson, I needed it. At any rate, it
> >> really
> >> supports my contention that MMY has rested the entire welfare of
> > the
> >> TMorg's success on these bogus studies!!
> There were no bogus studies, there were only bogus interpretations 
> those watery wisdoms in the recent mail "Where is the truth ?", 
> pseudo-yogies are typically misguiding people's minds, ending up in 
> confusion like "everything is truth").
>  It's psuedo-science, it
> >> hasn't been proven satisfactorily. Remember.."thru the window of
> >> science".
> There was nothing wrong in that statement. But science on TM got 
> suppressed by CIA and other conspiraceous groups. Why the fourth 
state of 
> consciousness has not yet been part of general physiology so far ?
> We might as well replace Guru Dev's picture with that of
> >> the greatest scientest of our age, the great John Hagelin!!  
> >> biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's 
> The biggest mistake is that people are obviously not practicing 
this program 
> regularly, because it is time-consuming, and money does not rain 
from the 
> sky in order to allow a man to invest so much time  in that daily.
> Viktor Schauberger from Austria similar like Tesslar had shown the 
way to 
> get out of dependence already in the Thirties (he was one of the 
fathers of 
> discovering the reality of "free energy").
> If we had his technologies as part of our homes meanwhile, we all 
would find 
> more time to excercise the siddhis regularly.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of
> > course...
> I definitely find it of personal use. Don't critizize the master so 
> change and deepen your vision !
> Hagen

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