salyavin, I think you make a good point that some TMers were simply born more
stable or whatever. I've also noticed that kapha types are often very calm and
grounded most of the time. Sometimes such people don't really get how different
life is for other people who weren't born that way. So these types are stable,
but they can lack vision and empathy. I think we all have our innate gifts and
flaws.
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of "Do less but accomplish
more"
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego
bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone
enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a
huuuuuge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all,
would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the
head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-)
When I was a newbie meditator I had this hunger for enlightenment, I'd had the
experiences of CC up to unity many times and thought it must be an enviable
state to be in all the time.
After quitting my job and moving in to an academy I started to notice that
people who had been doing TM for decades were for the most part, erm, highly
eccentric, occasionally aggressive and generally rather odd. At first I put it
down to the fact that they'd either not done enough TM or maybe too much .
I did meet the occasionally evolved person which seemed to make it all
worthwhile. You know the type, they carry a bit of dignity and have no obvious
hang-ups or emotional blocks or ego problems. Clear minded people that act
lively and always seem well adjusted. I think it was Maslow who had studied
people who he described as self-realised and the description fits well. But
then his description included open-minded inquiry and TMer's tend to have a
True Believer devotee attribute.
So I came to the conclusion - perhaps unfairly - that they must have been that
personally quite evolved or halfway there to start with. I've yet to see any
evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a
personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some
sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions.
The big question is: Is it worth crossing the street for? I've yet to see or
hear anything from the TMO that makes me want to do TM with enlightenment as
the goal, let alone sit around in a dome for hours every day. So I guess not,
we will all answer the question differently I suppose and be happy with the
answer we give ourselves.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Whereas the Movement never would "out" an enlightened individual, there are
many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment
? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he
answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize
enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even
try."It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think
we will do better"His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an
enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. "It takes one to
know one." Who woulda thought.
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