On Apr 30, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > sometimes you just have to get on the train. even if that
> > > > means a jump.
> > >
> > > When I was in the midst of my dark night of the soul, Tom 
> Traynor told
> > > me something along the lines that awakening requires crossing a 
> river
> > > between duality and nonduality and that you have to change 
> boats in
> > > the middle of the river. But, the boat from the middle to the 
> other
> > > side is invisible.
> > >
> > > I have no recollection of having made a conscious choice to 
> make that
> > > jump. For me, it was simply a matter of being squished like a 
> bug, and
> > > when I finally reached my limit of resisting it, the surrender 
> just
> > > happened, and with it, the inside-out outside-in shift in 
> identity.
> >
> > I was very fortunate, for me it was simply HH the Dalai Lama
> > grabbing me by the hands and staring into my eyes. Really it
> > was just a beginning though.
>
> In Waking Down vernacular, I had my "second birth awakening", which is
> clearly a description of a beginning, not a final destination.
> However, the *only* thing I have ever been a seeker of is an end to
> the war with myself, and in that sense, I have reached my destination.
>
> Where things go from here, I have no idea. In terms of interests and
> desires, I remain unchanged, and that includes my complete lack of
> interest in cultivating siddhis or any other esoteric, subtle relative
> phenomena. I'm not the least bit bothered by the notion that my body
> will continue to cast a shadow and won't dematerialize upon death.


Well these are just *signs*--unless you're the type of person who 
worries about what sights and signs are going to appear on a stretch 
of strange highway, I honestly don't know why you'd be interested! 
And not everyone one is interested in liberation for *others*, they 
are interested in their own liberation. If that's the case, why worry 
about the details of "after here"?


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