--- In [email protected], "mrsatva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and
> tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder
> why none of his students/followers got enlightened 


Er, the only published research on enlightened people is rsearch on TMers....

and the majority
> stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ?

The vast majority of people stop doing most things that they learn to do, good 
or not.

 I
> have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion
> about them:
> 
> 1.    In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone he took
> out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth 


TM is the most fundamental form of devition possible. EVERYTHING is sacrificed.

> 
> 2.    Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds of
> monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non
> (traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to use
> to group effects.
> 

That was MMY's point about why most other forms of meditation really do NOT get 
you 
enlightened, despite what some people might claim.

> TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the
> emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!?
>

Who told you this? Obviously many people here complain about Judy being to 
caught up in 
her emotions, for instance...






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