--- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often 
> have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's 
> what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, 
> that the ingredient that one needs for full health is not there? You 
> might well be on to something, perhaps you could suggest how one 
> might re-introduce the missing vitamins, so to speak?
> 
> 

So you're saying a meditation technique that has no manpiulation or control is 
a 
"processed" meditation?

> 
> --- In [email protected], "mrsatva" <mrsatva@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) 
> and
> > tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I 
> wonder
> > why none of his students/followers got enlightened and the majority
> > stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ? I
> > have two ideas about it and would like to hear (read) your opinion
> > about them:
> > 
> > 1.  In his attempt to make the teaching digestible for everyone 
> he took
> > out the devotional part with maybe accentual for spiritual growth 
> > 
> > 2.  Because the spiritual teaching has been in the hand and minds 
> of
> > monks for centuries it got a form witch simply doesn't work for non
> > (traditional) monks. A bit like the group conciseness MMY wants to 
> use
> > to group effects.
> > 
> > TM cuts you of from your emotions. Maybe as a result of 2. But the
> > emotions are accentual for spiritual growth (1.) ?!?
> >
>






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