--- In [email protected], "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>  That's ok,,,I am certainly accustomed to defensiveness both 
passive 
> and agressive when speaking about TM with TM'rs
> 
> 
> 
> > How can you tell the difference between someone
> > who is totally brainwashed and programmed and
> > somebody who is so excited by something they've
> > just learned they can't stop talking about it?
> 
> Personally, when I am excited about something I have experienced I 
> speak in terms of "I" and "we" but in the case in point it was 
> all "Maharishi,,,Maharishi,,,Maharishi. Indicating an almost 
absence 
> of self awareness and identity. Only Maharishi existed,,,only his 
> word, his thoughts, his ideals,,,truely frightening that one 
person, 
> a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest 
of 
> us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us could be looked 
> upon as different. 
> 
> But then I have walked through the halls of his Center of 
> Enlightenment in Huntsville. Dingy, old, smells of mould, paint 
> pealing off the walls. Kitchen appliances that look like fire 
> hazards. It seemed totally void of life joy or happiness. I felt 
> like I was walking through a morgue. No plants, no flowers only 
> picture after endless picture of Maharishi himself on the walls.
> > 
> > Just for the record, the "German study" is a
> > complete crock.  If you're interested to know
> > more, do a search on Google Groups in the group
> > alt.meditation.transcendental for "German study."
> 
> Ah yes an impartial government study is a crock. Well I don't 
think 
> the German courts share you view. Can you tell me who set up and 
who 
> sponsored the site you have recommended?
> > 
> > For that matter, practically everything you'll
> > find on Trancenet is dubious in one way or the
> > other.  Not a reliable source of information on
> > TM.
> 
> I have been to far more sites then Trancenet but thank you for 
your 
> advice.
> > 
> > Most people just learn TM and go away and
> > practice it on their own without going any
> > further or becoming involved in the TM
> > organization.
> > 
> > It's also entirely possible to learn the 
> > TM-Sidhis and/or become involved with the TM
> > organization without getting into a cultlike
> > relationship with it.
> > 
> > Some people seem to need to establish a
> > cultlike relationship with the TMO, and
> > unfortunately the TMO doesn't do anything
> > to discourage that.
> 
> Absolutely and I couldn't agree more with these statements. In 
fact 
> I meditate myself,,,regularly.



...and you are, IMHO, an actual practioner of the TM Program whereas 
your Ex is not.  Because she has embraced a cult and done it in the 
way she has, she isn't really practising the TM Program...she may be 
doing the TM Technique twice a day, but NOT the TM Program which is 
all about choosing activity according to your own traditions, your 
own common sense and NOT adopting some TM religion or TM philosophy 
or TM Way of Life.

YOU practise TM; SHE doesn't.




> But its not just the cult like 
> mentality referring to the TMO it is also the "worshipping" of a 
> man, that man being Maharishi. He's just a man who has made 
billions 
> selling a customised version of Hinduism. And there's nothing 
wrong 
> with that. Just be honest and call it what it is. 
>  
> > > When I first started dating me
> > 
> > Freudian slip?? 
> 
> More like a reality check,,,in the final analysis I was dating 
> myself. Her mind was no where to be found, then again neither was 
> her heart.
> 
>  
> > I kind of doubt she believed she was actually
> > levitating beyond the "first stage" (hopping)
> > of Yogic Flying.
> 
> Wanna bet!!!
> >
>







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