--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > This mind-modeling has taken place on many levels. > It's been learned consciously in response to words > spoken by Maharishi and taught by example as he > performs the actions that they interpret as enlight- > ened and attempt to emulate. But even more important, > it's been accomplished through the process of them > -- the TBs -- doing what they were told to do by > Maharishi himself, practicing the spiritual technique > he held up for them as the quintessence of spiritual > practice -- "becoming in tune with one's teacher's > thinking." > > *That* is the spiritual model that Maharishi sells, > more than any other. Blind devotion to one's teacher > and trying to cultivate the ability to think like > him is what he's sold to his close followers all > these years -- not TM, not the siddhis.
I'm trying to figure out exactly who on this forum Barry could be referring to. I know Barry likes to characterize me as a TB, although I'm clearly not; but even if I were, I *never* encountered any teaching in the TM context about "blind devotion to one's teacher" or "becoming in tune with one's teacher's thinking" as "the quintessence of spiritual practice." OK, Barry does say these people are "close followers." Perhaps he means TM teachers, who may have received the teaching he describes while the rank-and-filers did not? But who on this forum is a TM teacher and a TB? I can't think of anybody offhand. <snip> > It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about "loyalty," > and who views anyone who isn't completely "faithful" > to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual > enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words > of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that > the mindset they're expressing is not their own. > > And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels > this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on > FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting > his own internal dis-ease outwards. > > IMO Maharishi feels "betrayed" by those who don't do > everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru > Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and > meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. > I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he > betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come > to the surface for him whenever someone "betrays" > him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. Just one other point: A "hangup about loyalty" is common in many, many groups, spiritual or otherwise. It's particularly common in politics (see the general condemnation of Joe Lieberman among Democrats, just for one example). So the "hangup about loyalty" mindset that the mysterious teacher-TBs on this forum manifest, according to Barry, need not have been acquired from MMY; they could have encountered and absorbed it in any group they had worked with. It's certainly rife among many of the other followers of Guru Dev; just think of the abuse that's been heaped on MMY for going his own way (including the story Barry cites of Guru Dev having told MMY not to teach). So if Barry's insight is sound, we'd have to assume *Guru Dev* fostered those loyalty hangups as well, and that Guru Dev did so because he felt guilty about betraying his own teacher. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
