--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
> OK, Barry does say these people are "close followers."
> Perhaps he means TM teachers, who may have received
> the teaching he describes while the rank-and-filers
> did not?
> 
> But who on this forum is a TM teacher and a TB?  I
> can't think of anybody offhand.
> 
> <snip>
> > It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about "loyalty," 
> > and who views anyone who isn't completely "faithful" 
> > to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual
> > enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words 
> > of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that 
> > the mindset they're expressing is not their own.
> >
> > And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels 
> > this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on 
> > FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting
> > his own internal dis-ease outwards. 
> > 
> > IMO Maharishi feels "betrayed" by those who don't do 
> > everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru 
> > Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and 
> > meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. 
> > I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he 
> > betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come 
> > to the surface for him whenever someone "betrays" 
> > him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. 
> 
> Just one other point: A "hangup about loyalty" is
> common in many, many groups, spiritual or otherwise.
> It's particularly common in politics (see the general
> condemnation of Joe Lieberman among Democrats, just
> for one example).
> 
> So the "hangup about loyalty" mindset that the
> mysterious teacher-TBs on this forum manifest,
> according to Barry, need not have been acquired from
> MMY; they could have encountered and absorbed it in
> any group they had worked with.
> 
> It's certainly rife among many of the other followers
> of Guru Dev; just think of the abuse that's been
> heaped on MMY for going his own way (including the
> story Barry cites of Guru Dev having told MMY not to
> teach).
> 
> So if Barry's insight is sound, we'd have to assume
> *Guru Dev* fostered those loyalty hangups as well,
> and that Guru Dev did so because he felt guilty 
> about betraying his own teacher.
>
>>and avoiding those posters whom time 
> > has proven a waste of time.>> Like you Judy. Your high horse
pontifications are truly obnoxious.






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