--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> >> 
> > OK, Barry does say these people are "close followers."
> > Perhaps he means TM teachers, who may have received
> > the teaching he describes while the rank-and-filers
> > did not?
> > 
> > But who on this forum is a TM teacher and a TB?  I
> > can't think of anybody offhand.
> > 
> > <snip>
> > > It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about "loyalty," 
> > > and who views anyone who isn't completely "faithful" 
> > > to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual
> > > enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words 
> > > of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that 
> > > the mindset they're expressing is not their own.
> > >
> > > And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels 
> > > this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on 
> > > FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting
> > > his own internal dis-ease outwards. 
> > > 
> > > IMO Maharishi feels "betrayed" by those who don't do 
> > > everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru 
> > > Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and 
> > > meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. 
> > > I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he 
> > > betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come 
> > > to the surface for him whenever someone "betrays" 
> > > him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. 
> > 
> > Just one other point: A "hangup about loyalty" is
> > common in many, many groups, spiritual or otherwise.
> > It's particularly common in politics (see the general
> > condemnation of Joe Lieberman among Democrats, just
> > for one example).
> > 
> > So the "hangup about loyalty" mindset that the
> > mysterious teacher-TBs on this forum manifest,
> > according to Barry, need not have been acquired from
> > MMY; they could have encountered and absorbed it in
> > any group they had worked with.
> > 
> > It's certainly rife among many of the other followers
> > of Guru Dev; just think of the abuse that's been
> > heaped on MMY for going his own way (including the
> > story Barry cites of Guru Dev having told MMY not to
> > teach).
> > 
> > So if Barry's insight is sound, we'd have to assume
> > *Guru Dev* fostered those loyalty hangups as well,
> > and that Guru Dev did so because he felt guilty 
> > about betraying his own teacher.
> >
> >>and avoiding those posters whom time 
> > > has proven a waste of time.>> Like you Judy. Your high horse
> pontifications are truly obnoxious.

Got any substantive comments on my analysis, or
can you only resort to the old ad hominem?







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