--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > >> > > OK, Barry does say these people are "close followers." > > Perhaps he means TM teachers, who may have received > > the teaching he describes while the rank-and-filers > > did not? > > > > But who on this forum is a TM teacher and a TB? I > > can't think of anybody offhand. > > > > <snip> > > > It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about "loyalty," > > > and who views anyone who isn't completely "faithful" > > > to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual > > > enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words > > > of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that > > > the mindset they're expressing is not their own. > > > > > > And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels > > > this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on > > > FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting > > > his own internal dis-ease outwards. > > > > > > IMO Maharishi feels "betrayed" by those who don't do > > > everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru > > > Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and > > > meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. > > > I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he > > > betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come > > > to the surface for him whenever someone "betrays" > > > him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. > > > > Just one other point: A "hangup about loyalty" is > > common in many, many groups, spiritual or otherwise. > > It's particularly common in politics (see the general > > condemnation of Joe Lieberman among Democrats, just > > for one example). > > > > So the "hangup about loyalty" mindset that the > > mysterious teacher-TBs on this forum manifest, > > according to Barry, need not have been acquired from > > MMY; they could have encountered and absorbed it in > > any group they had worked with. > > > > It's certainly rife among many of the other followers > > of Guru Dev; just think of the abuse that's been > > heaped on MMY for going his own way (including the > > story Barry cites of Guru Dev having told MMY not to > > teach). > > > > So if Barry's insight is sound, we'd have to assume > > *Guru Dev* fostered those loyalty hangups as well, > > and that Guru Dev did so because he felt guilty > > about betraying his own teacher. > > > >>and avoiding those posters whom time > > > has proven a waste of time.>> Like you Judy. Your high horse > pontifications are truly obnoxious.
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