--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> > As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear
> >> > to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not the kind
> >> > of personal guru that Guru Dev was referring to.  I'm
> >> > sure Paul knows this, so it remains unclear to me,
> >> > at any rate, why he posted the quote.
> > 
> I think it¹s one of the most significant things ever posted to
> FFL. The issue of other gurus and loyalty to MMY has been a hot
> one in FF for decades. A quote from GD condoning switching gurus
> is a real bombshell.

However, as Alex noted (see above), the quote doesn't
appear to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not
the kind of personal guru that Guru Dev was referring
to.

In any case, I don't remember having heard anything
about MMY having said it wasn't OK to switch teachers
(to use a more general term).  If MMY has said you should
stick with your first teacher for the rest of your life,
I'd be interested to know about it.

I do recall something to the effect that it wasn't good
to have one foot in each of two boats, which I understood
to mean you shouldn't have two teachers at once.  But
Guru Dev doesn't say anything, at least in this quote,
about its being OK to have two teachers at once.

So on both these grounds, I don't see the relevance
of the quote to this group.

("Loyalty" per se may be a completely different issue,
depending.)

 Many TB¹s here might have taken his ³women 
> can¹t be gurus² admonition as gospeltruth, and might have used it 
> to belittle the lady saints who come through.

"Many TBs here"??  Just how many people on this group
do you imagine are such fanatics that they'd do such
a thing?  Are you getting paranoid like Barry and
seeing TBs under the bed?  Has anybody here made such
a comment, or is that just your fantasy?

 So they can¹ have
> it both ways. Either he¹s right about everything, including it 
> being OK to switch gurus, or those who believe in him are free
> to pick and choose among the things he said. It¹ll be interesting 
> when LB¹s book comes out.

I don't know what "believe in him" could mean in
this context.  But the two alternatives you cite,
that he's right about everything or that he's *not*
right about everything, seem, um, a bit obvious.

(Personally, I don't see why you can't be devoted
to a teacher and still not think he or she is right
about everything.)







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