> --- In [email protected] <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>What kind was he referring to? Tabla teachers and such. Indians refer to those as gurus too.
> , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> on 9/4/06 2:26 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As Alex pointed out, though, the quote doesn't appear
>>>>> to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not the kind
>>>>> of personal guru that Guru Dev was referring to. I'm
>>>>> sure Paul knows this, so it remains unclear to me,
>>>>> at any rate, why he posted the quote.
>>>
>> I think it’s one of the most significant things ever posted to
>> FFL. The issue of other gurus and loyalty to MMY has been a hot
>> one in FF for decades. A quote from GD condoning switching gurus
>> is a real bombshell.
>
> However, as Alex noted (see above), the quote doesn't
> appear to be relevant to this group, since MMY is not
> the kind of personal guru that Guru Dev was referring
> to.
>
I don’t think he has, and can think of an instance or two where he said the opposite, but TMO policy doesn’t reflect that.
> In any case, I don't remember having heard anything
> about MMY having said it wasn't OK to switch teachers
> (to use a more general term). If MMY has said you should
> stick with your first teacher for the rest of your life,
> I'd be interested to know about it.
>
> I do recall something to the effect that it wasn't goodMost gurus say similar things, but some don’t feel threatened by their students visiting other saints/gurus and even send them to them. They don’t consider this a 2nd boat. Just a little extracurricular enrichment.
> to have one foot in each of two boats, which I understood
> to mean you shouldn't have two teachers at once. But
> Guru Dev doesn't say anything, at least in this quote,
> about its being OK to have two teachers at once.
>By “here” I meant Fairfield, not FFL. Visiting gurus is a contentious issue here
> Many TB’s here might have taken his “women
>> can’t be gurus” admonition as gospeltruth, and might have used it
>> to belittle the lady saints who come through.
>
> "Many TBs here"?? Just how many people on this group
> do you imagine are such fanatics that they'd do such
> a thing? Are you getting paranoid like Barry and
> seeing TBs under the bed? Has anybody here made such
> a comment, or is that just your fantasy?
>I agree. I think fanatics see their teacher/guru/religious founder as an absolute authority on everything, but more spiritually mature people tend to realize that gurus are human beings who may often be expressing personal opinions based on upbringing, cultural conditioning, etc. Many people in FF and some on this list don’t fit into the latter category.
> (Personally, I don't see why you can't be devoted
> to a teacher and still not think he or she is right
> about everything.)
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