--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "> Heh. So you don't think that Jesus would be walking the streets today?
> > 
> 
> I think he would be running a small group and the miracles marketing
> hype would, sadly enough, work just as well today.  His description in
> the Gospels, if accurate historically, reminds  me of other leaders I
> have seen working their mojo today.
> 
> > I recall reading the grand ole dame of deprogramming, Margeret
> Singer, complaining 
> > about several of her patients--long-term TMers--whose
> depersonalization was so severe 
> > that even electroshock therapy couldn't affect it...
> 
> I never discussed the shock thing with Margret, but did discuss her
> opinion that TM people spent more time in an altered state than people
> in other groups. This lead to more depersonalization problems and
> dissociative disorders for the TM people whe worked with then she
> found in groups that did not spend so much time in trance states.  If
> that is true then the batch that will emerge from the domes in a year
> of that massive immersion program should be like a scene from an old
> Thriller video.  Or maybe they will all float out in formation proving
> MMY's dramatic claims to be more than the ravings of a pitch man guru.
>  Which do you think is more likely?
> 

Neiheryou nor she apparently ever considered the fact (now proveable beyond 
doubt by 
Fred's latest reesearch) that TM-induced "pure consciousness" is not merely an 
altered 
state of consciousness. But oh well. Keep your anti-stuff going if it makes you 
happy.





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