OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your courses.
Nor am I speaking about the lack of integrity in the TMO that is so evident and definitely involves lying as in the pandit project, as in bold-faced promising recerts they would be paid as two of the most recent examples. But as far as teaching goes, my experience is closer to how new.moring describes it. Comments below to some of the specifics that Barry talks mentions though: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: >> > -- When asked, "Are the names of any Hindu gods mentioned > in the puja?" -- answer "No." This is obviously not true. We were never told to say "no" if the question comes up. We were instructed to use the example of doctors taking the hypocratic oath to "aphrodite and all the gods"--A comparable level of relevance. > -- When asked, "Are the words 'I bow down' included in > the puja, and does the teacher actually bow to any of > the names mentioned?" -- answer "No." This is equally > not true. We were never told this. Not to say that Barry wasn't, but we weren't. > -- When asked, "Is the TM puja a Hindu ritual?" -- answer > "No." In reality, it is a hodge-podge of different verses > from *many* different Hindu pujas and rituals. We were never told this either. The question didn't come up. Different era perhaps. > -- When asked, "Is it mandatory for the student to > kneel during initiation?" -- answer "No." HOWEVER, > in the explicit instructions given to me and other > TM teachers I know when we were made teachers, we > were epxlicitly told to never teach the person > UNLESS they knelt. This is something we were definitely not told. Nor is it something I have ever even heard before. I'm curious now if this was a common instruction during that time. > -- When asked, "How many mantras are used in TM," > we were told never to answer this question, but to > hint that there were "very many...dozens or more." We were never told to hint at any numbers at all, just to say--if pushed--we don't discuss that except in the context of teacher training. > -- When asked, "How are they selected?" we were told > never to say exactly how, but to imply that they were > selected based on "a large number of different criteria" > known to us as TM teachers. In fact, there is only > one criterion. Set criteria; information on the interview form As new morning said, there is spin involved, sure. There is also ideology, belief, and paradigm. Those things can shift over time. It doesn't make one a retrospective liar to have believed something, or have believed in something. Again, I don't know what anyone else's experience on TTC was. I'm not saying others weren't told those things, only that we weren't. I think it's a lot more difficult these days to teach TM without lying because everything a teacher says is belied by the lack of integrity of the organization. Where at one time, the organization could gain credence, plausibility, and a certain amount of leeway from the success of the techniques (which was, after all, what kept so many going in spite of the TMO), now the credibility of the technique(s) suffers becasue of the idiocy and lack of ethics of the organization. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
