--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sparaig wrote:
> 
> >--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>sparaig wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >[...]
> >  
> >
> >>>Who "they?" Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda 
Saraswati, 
> >>>and he's under the impression that he learned TM or something extremely 
> >>>similar 
to it.
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>TM is not that unique in its process.  It is called "yogic meditation" 
> >>in other circles.   The actual use of the bijas particularly without OM 
> >>is what is considered unorthodox.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >>From what I've seen of how people describe other purportedly simple and 
> >>easy 
meditatio 
> >techniques, very few are actually simple and easy.
> >
> All that says is you haven't seen very much.  Hence my term 
> "spirituality sheltered."
>

That might be. However, one prominent exponent of the technique of Buddhist 
meditation 
that Vaj characterizes as "effortless" admonishes people to be vigilant in not 
letting 
oneself fall asleep or getting lst in thoughts, which to me, is a form of 
effort and control...

Am I to ignore his own description of what he teaches? BTW, the people whom I 
*DO* trust 
to "get it" ala TM say things like "the Way that can be spoken is not the 
Constant Way." 
Maharishi doesn't describe TM in detail either, and TM teachers are taught to 
be vague in 
describing TM in order to avoid putting expectations on people, or such is what 
I surmise 
as the reason why every official description of TM is vague: you can't really 
describe the 
practice of TM and to try actually risks destroying the practice both for the 
person hearing 
the description AND for the person attempting to make the description.







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