--- In [email protected], "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Technically speaking any process of meditation, subject and object > which are transcended, will require a path and some effort, some > intention. The only thing that is truly effortless is *nonmeditation.* >
Then my TM "practice" must be "nonmeditation," because I seldom, if ever, have intent-- save perhaps to keep my eyes closed for 20minutes, and even that is up for debate. > Other things indicative of effort would be any mental process (e.g. > subtler and subtler levels of mentation till conscious mentation > stops), awareness of a mental object, any "focus" whether conceptual > or non-conceptual, allurement or charm towards towards a calm or > transcendent state, etc. > > > That's not to say "effort is bad", is just part and parcel of > dualistic paths. > > Reflexively authentic open awareness is not focused on any particular > object and this is why no effort is needed. Any "consciousness" by > necessity arises from causes, one of which is an object, even a subtle > object. Self-arisen wisdom does not need an object. In fact > effortless, nonmeditation requires *no subject or object. > * > (back to lurk mode) > No subject or object is samadhi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
