On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:29 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:50 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
Dude, you've never even *done* the flying technique! lol!
Not only have I, I was a successful hopper.
What you
have written has nothing specific to do with the flying sutra.
Pranayama!? That is just absurd- I did pranayama before meditation
for years prior to meditation and never a hint of hopping or
movement.
Pranayama in it's deeper sense is a yama or pause--a gap--in the
breath, that often coincides with Pure Consciousness. If this gap
does not occur, even briefly in a flash, the prana can never have the
door it needs to "hop".
So it is "prana" that is hopping, rather than the body? The prana
is what is important rather
than pure consciousness? YFers hopping about stabilizes prana but
doesn't stabilize pure
consciousness?
No it is not prana "hopping", it's the side effect of prana entering
the muladhara-chakra and what happens when it "touches" apana-vayu.
That's all.
That's not to say that prana is not important...
Where's the research on breath suspension using Buddhist meditation
techniques, BTW?
Was I supposed to be looking for some?
A teacher of mine did some casual experiment though and I was
impressed. In the longer "pauses" it's not so much a "pause" as it is
a very, very long in and out-breath. I'm not sure if there is any
recent research on the real long suspensions--hour and days. But I'm
really less and less "wowed" by objective research. I'd much rather
sit next to someone who does do such a long suspension and then talk
to them.
IMO it's finding out your own inner signs that's ultimate.
