--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > > > You're enlightened, and you refuse to even *think*
> > > > that you might not be. Did I get that right, Jim?
> > > 
> > > You are missing what I and many others have already said again  
> > > and again here. Enlightenment is not experienced on the level 
> > > of thinking. It is a state of Being. This is not my original 
> > > expression-- All of the gurus and spiritual teachers say this 
> > > also. Given your background, I am surprised that you don't 
> > > know this yet. Your level of ignorance astounds me.:-)
> > 
> > It's a little like accusing somebody of refusing
> > even to *think* they might be dreaming rather
> > than awake. When you're awake, it's self-evident
> > you aren't dreaming. (Not "self-evident" meaning
> > "obvious," but rather evident in terms of itself.)
> 
> Ever heard of hallucination? Or delusion?

Not relevant. The issue is one's state of
consciousness, not one's state of mind.

<snip>
> Haven't you ragged on me for years to examine my
> experiences of seeing someone levitate, to see if
> there might be another way of seeing the experience,
> and see if it might not be true?

Nope, never have, actually. I'm afraid you're 
hallucinating.


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