Was in a rush before; want to add a couple things: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > *Without a doubt*, these people's enlightenment was > self-evident to them. There was no question in their > minds that it existed. But did it?
I have no idea. Do you? > I'm just sayin' that there is a big "red flag" > raised for me when someone believes one of their > "stories" so completely And Jim was just sayin' that the nature of enlightenment is such that it falls outside the category of "stories," something of which you're apparently not aware. that they seem *unable* to > even *entertain* the idea that it might not be true. You have this very peculiar tendency to assume that when someone disagrees with you about whether something is possible, it's because they are unable to entertain the idea that whatever it is, is possible. It never occurs to you that they might have entertained the idea that it was possible and decided it wasn't. > Haven't you ragged on me for years to examine my > experiences of seeing someone levitate, to see if > there might be another way of seeing the experience, > and see if it might not be true? This is such a great example of the way you simply make stuff up about people, especially me. It has *zero* basis in reality. If I were you, I wouldn't be questioning others about the validity of *their* perceptions when your own are so demonstrably wrong. <snip> > Yet when Jim refuses to even *consider* examining > his enlightenment, even if it's just theoretical > and for fun, you defend him and claim that I'm > accusing him of something. Hmmmm. :-) Yeah, I wasn't "defending" Jim. I was providing an analogy to illustrate the point he was making about the nature of enlightenment. Sorry you were unable to tell the difference. Just one further note: It's wonderfully amusing to watch you trying to make Jim doubt his experience of enlightenment when you've delivered countless exhortations about how TMers never have any spiritual experiences, so they call those of others in question out of jealousy. Given your recent spate of putdowns of Jim's and Rory's experiences, it looks like it ain't the TMers who are jealous.
