X-Comment-To: Axel C. Frinke

Hi!

21-���-2002 00:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Axel C. Frinke) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

ACF> As it goes for european and american versions, I dare to say, the
ACF> highest numbers are 912 and 915 (supported by PC-DOS 7.0). For MS,
ACF> the highest number seems to be 869.
RQ>> ( my wish: below 4000
RQ>> my second wish: below 8000
RQ>> my last wish: below 16000 :-((()
ACF> I agree completely!
ACF> Let me express it more precisely: it would be handy to have all
ACF> codepage number below 4098.

     As stated by Matthias, DR-DOS assigns for code pages with euro sign
some very big values.

ACF> Codepage numbers above 16383 would be nightmare!

     Why?

ACF> BTW, what about the codepages which are not supported by MS? I think,
ACF> at least the ISO codepages are worth to be supported. And there are a
ACF> lot of codepages without any official IDs. The most important of them
ACF> is KOI8-R, which should be supported as well. (Arkady, do you agree?)

     No.

     See the difference: under Windows you have one system codepage (to be
precise: two with so called "OEM") and may use any fonts simultaneously.
This is how was added support for KOI8-R in Netscape Navigator before it
begins a _real_ internationalized program.

     Under DOS you have one system codepage and you _can't_ have other
simultaneous fonts [for different code pages]. This is nature of text modes,
only some _applications_ may support in graphics mode some different fonts.

     On the other side, KOI8-R never used in DOS as base codepage, although
beside ALT (CP866) codepage there was three other - MAIN, BULGAR and GOST.
KOI8-R used only as commincation base, so under DOS you should only have
translation tables in communication programs.

     There is another story with *ixes: for cyrillic there used almost only
KOI8-R (this is why it used for communications), but this have no relation
for DOS.

     Conclusion: under DOS may/should used only CP866. Adding support for
other codepages (even for Windows CP1251) have no sense - at least, because
they not contain pseudographic characters.

ACF> I've heard of a proposal about 'user definable codepage IDs' to
ACF> assign IDs above 0xF000 to codepages without official IDs. But I don't
ACF> like to assign such a number to a wide-spread codepage like KOI8-R.

     BTW, to complicate case the more, there is another KOI8 - KOI8-U
(Ukrainian KOI8). You may see the differences with KOI8-R in RFC2319.

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