Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with drool....if the drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie Laurie Why don't you guys like WB cat litter? Just curious. I've tried many types and find it pretty good. I will look up Dr. Elsey's. Lucky's teeth look good. He likes to rub his mouth on my hand when we're having our Love Sessions... and he'll very gently nibble. I thought, "Wow, I bet I could brush this cat's teeth." Something I would never get away with on my other cats. Lucky is an odd cat, and I suspect he's quite bright. I'm hoping for drool vs. pee! Thanks for your insights. ~Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurieskatz" <lauriesk...@mchsi.com> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] BONNIE > Bonnie, if it was pee there would be NO mistaking it! Has anyone checked > his > teeth if he is drooling? That sounds like a lot of drool. And I bet it is > drool. > The vet (at catinfo.org) hates World's best cat litter, btw. > She and I used Dr. Elsey's Ultra Precious cats. > L > > "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy > untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive > them > of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride > yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with > your > greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces > of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of > us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:57 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] BONNIE > > "Think like the > cat and you will have your answer!" -- I like that! > > This sounds strange, but I'm not sure it's pee because it doesn't stink > much. The vet said it could be pee or, get this, it could be drool. > Lucky > lays on the bed and looks pretty comfortable, and he is a major league > drooler! He has the room and the box to himself, so no anxiety there. I > see pee-clumps in the box, but I suppose he could still be peeing the bed > just because. I use World's Best Cat Litter -- also world's most > expensive -- and it really is excellent stuff. I scoop his box daily. > But > I might need to change the litter more. > Anyway, now I'm doing a test: putting a water-proof cover on the mattress, > wash and replace the sheets and see if I can tell what's really going on. > Cats...anything is possible with these amazing animals! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laurieskatz" <lauriesk...@mchsi.com> > To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] BONNIE > > >> Peeing on bed can be result of other cats chasing a cat out of the litter >> box or an aversion to the box or litter. >> Please read www.catinfo.org re litter box issues if this is not medical. >> It >> is a vet site and has GREAT suggestions. >> I had a bed peer, too. I had to place boxes in several locations where >> she >> had an escape route (2 access routes) because one of my other cats stalks >> her and chases her from the box. It can also be that they don't like >> something about the litter (smell or feel or cleanliness). Think like the >> cat and you will have your answer! >> L >> >> "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy >> untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive >> them >> of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride >> yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with >> your >> greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the >> traces >> of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of >> us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:38 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only? >> >> My experience: >> Started Stormy at 12 weeks as being "indoor only." She will occasionally >> sneak out, only to go directly under the deck. Some adventure! After 15 >> min. she's ready to come in. She's 14 yrs. old now. >> >> Will, likewise, found as tiny kitten, bottle fed, indoor only. He's >> never >> offered to sneak out. >> >> Miya Chan, once feral, had a litter of kittens at the creek and was the >> last >> >> one caught. She got out once but when I called her in at 3 a.m. she came >> home. I think she was just very frightened and hiding. Never offers to >> rush the door. >> >> Right now I'm working with Lucky, my mom's formerly feral cat. He is >> having >> >> some difficulties adjusting. The Feliway spray helps, but is very >> expensive. Lately I notice he's peeing on the bed (yuk). We're going to >> the vet today to rule out a urinary tract infection. I hope it is not >> behavioral, because then I'm stumped. Not wealthy and can't let the cat >> ruin what furniture I do have. >> >> I think the cold turkey thing is the way. In my experience, time and >> attention tame them. >> ~Bonnie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Beth" <create_me_...@yahoo.com> >> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only? >> >> >>>I agree. >>> My former ferals usually won't go near the door once they have been >>> inside >> >>> for awhile. If they do go out they come right back in. I did have one >>> former tame outside cat who took a couple years to get acclimated to >>> being >> >>> inside, but he was eventually fine. >>> >>> Beth >>> Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org >>> >>> --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>> >>> From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only? >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 8:30 AM >>> >>> I'll write more later - am feeding and cleaning litter boxes right now >>> for >>> cats that are strictly indoor and were either truly feral, reverted >>> abandoned cats at one time. And when I say feral, you couldn't even get >>> near them for a long time until they trusted us. It's easy - you are the >>> one that controls the door. Most decide that it's so great inside that >>> they >>> don't even want to use the outdoor enclosure! Speaking with 18 1/2 yrs >>> of >>> experience - having started trapping ONLY feral cats when we started our >>> rescue group. Some become the most adorable, friendly ever - some >>> don't - >>> but being indoors, with a nice soft bed and regular feeding, they always >>> accepted our hospitality very gratefully! Natalie >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:22 PM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only? >>> >>> >>> I would be interested in hearing others' stories of bringing inside an >>> FeLV >>> 'former feral' - to permenantly indoor. I don't let out my kitties, but >>> Whimsy has gone from a cagey feral to "almost house cat" status. He has >>> the >>> sunroom to himself, and has been out in the daytime and with us some >>> evenings. When out, he was staying in the yard, but the past few days >>> has >>> started to explore like he used to, and we have caught him across the >>> street, etc. Obviously, it's a big fright for us and since we were >>> planning >>> on him being inside 24/7 with Halloween coming up, this might be the >>> time >>> to >>> break the news to him....it's not safe for you to be out at all without >>> your >>> mom and dad. >>> >>> Because he was so feral, and it's taken him so long to get to this >>> point, >>> we >>> have worked at his pace - we didn't have a choice when we couldn't trap >>> him, >>> couldn't handle him. Now he comes when he's called. I want to make the >>> leap now for peace of mind and his safety, and now that I can handle him >>> (picking up, cuddling) it seems like the right time - I don't want to >>> stress >>> him more - he does sometimes get upset being cooped up. Should we just >>> toughen up and keep him in all the time, except when he is with us? >>> >>> He does get lonely and paws at the door to be let out if he's alone too >>> long, and I don't want him to get depressed. Adding another FeLV kitty >>> would not be the best financial move, given the whole clan we have with >>> various ailments. I also wonder if another FeLV could make him worse >>> off, >>> if that new kitty had a more serious 'version' of FeLV. Whimsy for now >>> has >>> been asymptomic, and is around 2 yrs 3 mos old. I hope he's one of the >>> ones >>> that can sustain health for a long time. I also don't know how he'd act >>> around another kitty. >>> >>> so, in summary - >>> >>> 1) is forcing him to be inside only the best thing to do? >>> 2) any ideas on how to make the transition emotionally easier for him? >>> >>> thank you, >>> Shannon and Whimsy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
