I will ask my vet as well. Let's keep in touch and share what we find out. We definitely do not want our money wasted. Thanks for sharing that story.

L
----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <at...@optonline.net>
To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now


I have no idea - maybe we should all do some searches to see what's out
there and ask a lot of questions! I'd hate to donate to anyone who merely
uses cats for the sake of research; I'd like to see if there's someplace
where they actually treat FeLV+ cats while trying for a cure, not mere
research for research sake and getting their hands on grant money. I should ask my veterinarian, he was co-founder of AVAR (Association of Veterinarians
for Animal Rights, now part of HSUS) whether he is aware of any real and
constructive research done on FeLV.
In the 90s, Cleveland Amory was on a show debating a researcher who got
lucrative grants for animal experiments, and not really contributing to
anything specific - just useless stuff!  Cleveland asked him about a
specific case (Please note: it was made up at that moment to see how
ridiculous and irrelevant some research is!), describing a really grotesque scenario of one cat's eye sewn shut, while the other was sewn so it couldn't
close, electrodes attached to the forehead, tail cut off, feeding tube
inserted, etc. The researcher started defending every bit of it without a
blink of an eye. When he finished, Cleveland boomed "Aha, I knew you would defend just about anything to get your hands on grant money; I just made the
whole thing up!"
BTW- Cleveland Amory was my very first adopter of a kitten that I trapped at
the Greenwich dump in 1992 - Tiger Bear, an pale orange tabby with golden
eyes (after his beloved white cat Polar Bear died).
Natalie

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

You are most certainly correct, Natalie! Anyone know of a Feline Leukemia
Society to donate to? Is there a group of scientists that are trying  to
find a cure or a better treatment plan for this deadly disease? Our poor
babies!!


----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <at...@optonline.net>
To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now


It is always so sad to hear about any of our little furries succumbing to
this horrible disease; I just wish that there were more available to help
them to feel better or get well.  One would think, that after all these
years, there would be more hope for them! What is it about this disease
that
makes it so complicated?  So many different symptoms that mimic other
things....does anyone out there care to find a cure?
I am so sorry to hear about all of the crossings over the rainbow bridge!
Natalie

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cindy McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now

Dear Cathy and Mark,

I didn't realize you lost your little Cali. I'm so sorry for your loss,
but
I'm glad that Cali got to know your love and kindess. As I said to Ben, I
pray you find comfort in knowing she's now happy and healthy. And when you
consider that you'll have eternity together, this separation is but a
speck
of time. Cali just turned a corner before you did and one day, you'll turn
that corner and there she'll be. She's not gone...just gone ahead.

You're in my thoughts and prayers,
Cindy


----- Original Message ----- From: <ckess...@cox.net>
To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dexter and Cali are together now


Ben,

I guess Dexter knew that Cali needed someone to play with from Dallas.
We

lost our Cali last Monday and it has been to hard for me to even write
about it.  You were so helpful to our little Cali and Dr. Wright was
wonderful in the short time we had to make so many decisions.  We only
had

our little girl 5 months and she was tired (but a true fighter in her
short little life).  She ended up with fluid around her lungs and we
drained it once and it refilled back up within 24 hours.  She was so
tired

but she fought so hard for the five months we had her.  She was the
cutiest kitten but it was so hard to watch her laboring to breath.

I just want you to know that you and Dexter were a blessing to my husband
and I (and our little girl, Cali) and I promise, Cali and he are playing
together now with no pain. Bless you, Ben, and thank you for all you did
for Dexter and for my family in our time of crisis and pain.

Cathy and Mark

---- Ben Williams <drsiebl...@gmail.com> wrote:

=============
I'd like to start off this message by thanking all of you for your kind
words regarding Dexter over the past few days - - my wife and I have
shared
and appreciated every one of the emails - it's meant a lot to us.
Unfortunately, this morning has proven to be heartbreaking to us both -
we
received a call first thing this morning from East Dallas Animal Clinic's
Dr. Ken Cantrell that Dexter's condition had worsened over the course of
the
night. After picking Dex up from the Emergency clinic yesterday morning,
we
immediately took him to Dr. Wright at Lakewood Vet Center.  Dr. Wright
has
been on vacation since last week and we were told that he would be back
yesterday morning - but he hadn't yet returned. I took Dexter to see him
on
three occasions last week for his lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
injections, but was only able to see him that Monday.  When we took Dex
in
on Friday when the swelling of his feet and face had begun, we were given
no
advice by his staff who were unable to do anything other than give Dex
his
shot and usher us out the door.  They are all very caring people and I
don't
blame them for anything, but I feel that any vet who runs a practice
where
he is the only doctor on staff, should do a bit more to keep his patients
informed about his availability - that way precious minutes or hours or
days
aren't wasted waiting for him to return. Fortunately, several weeks ago,
when trying to convince Dr. Wright to order the LTCI treatment (which
took
him over a week to do) I was referred to the East Dallas Animal Clinic by
the LTCI folks - they had used the medication before.   East Dallas
Animal
Clinic is a wonderful place.  We've worked with Dr. Ellsworth and Dr.
Cantrell there - - they are both compassionate and make a point of taking
calls from concerned pet owners.  They have both been wonderful to work
with
and have been open to taking every conceivable avenue with Dex's
treatment.
I only wish we had been seeing them from the start. We rushed Dex to them
yesterday morning as soon as it became clear that Dr. Wright wouldn't be
returning.  Again, I don't blame Dr. Wright, but when we took Dexter in
for
his checkup three weeks ago and Dr. Wright informed us that anemia had
set
in, his advice was to "take him home and make him comfortable."  A week
passed as I researched and tried to communicate with him about alternate
treatments and off-label meds. When you factor in that week and the week
he
took to order the LTCI meds, that's two out of the last three weeks where
Dex had little treatment.  Again, why the difficulty in getting anything
done for Dex? East Dallas, however, fit Dex in on the first day we spoke with him and started him on Acemannan injections. They had two remaining doses remaining of that drug; a drug that was very beneficial to Dex last
year when he was first diagnosed.  they sacrificed those 2 doses for Dex
without question - had I gone to them earlier, perhaps it would have had
more effect on him. Regardless, Dex seemed to make improvements while on
Immunoregulin, LCTI and the acemannan.  FeLV and FIV are horrible
diseases,
though, and I felt like there was something always sneaking up on Dex
while
we treated him.  We seemed to reverse the anemia, but his Lymph nodes
were
swelling.  Some days they would go down, other days, they would blow up.
When the mystery feet and face swelling started last week, he even
responded
well with benadryl.  That thing sneaking up on Dexter?  Full blown
cancer -
it wasn't just in his lymph nodes, it was in his liver and spleen - it
had
probably made his heart swell.  His breathing was becoming more and more
labored and we struggled with the decision of when Dexter was in too much
pain to continue.  Yesterday, Dr. Cantrell started chemotherapy on Dex,
as
well as steroids.  He seemed to tolerate the meds well, but over the
course
of the night, he became more jaundiced and vomited, while his body
temperature dropped to 94 degrees. His little body had given out as this
terrible disease had taken almost everything from him.  I say almost
everything, because when we arrived at East Dallas Animal Clinic this
morning, even though he was being hand fed oxygen while under a warming
pad,
little Dexter still had a playful wag of the tail when we placed our
hands
on him and told him how much we love him. Dexter died at 8 this morning.
We are heartbroken that our sweet boy is gone and that he was only with
us
for a year and a half.  He was such a wonderful, sweet and special
kitty -
we will miss him terribly.  He was a huge part of our family - not some
"pet" or animal.  We have four other wonderful kitties at home who are
not
FelV or FIV positive. They have been wonderful as our attention has been
so
focused on Dex for the last month and we owe them some serious one on one time right now. While all of the kitties get along well, Dex was the one
cat in the house that all the other cats adored.  He was never involved
in
spats with any of them and they all took turns cleaning him and looking
after him.  Dex was special to everyone.  In the end, I wish there was
more
I could have done for Dex - I look back at the timing of everything and
how
the last three weeks have gone for him.  Could the outcome have been
different?  I'll never know, of course, but I'm not done fighting this
fight
with FeLV and FIV.  These diseases took our boy from us and I will not
stop
until they are both a thing of the past.  Its the very least I can do in
honor of Dexter - a wonderful boy who fought with dignity and calm, and
above all else, the special brand of sweetness that only he had.

Thanks, everyone.
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