Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes?
What are they called & where do you get them!
~Bonnie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes 
around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth

I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES.  

It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place.  I had been 
using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river 
and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet 
for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also.  Vet gave her a 
long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they 
called and said she was loaded with seed ticks.  I check them every time they 
come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament.  I 
have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks.  Anyone else 
haeing a big problem with them?

---- Cindy McHugh <ci...@furangels.org> wrote: 
> I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for 
> dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember 
> watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal 
> Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended 
> for dogs on it. So
> *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet 
> first about adjusting the dosage.
> 
> Cindy & Angel Jackpot
> 
> From: molvey...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just 
> discussing it with my feline asthma group.
> 
> Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems.  I have a 
> cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard.  That is making things 
> ten times worse.  I've been using Revolution for several years now with no 
> problems.
> Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog 
> size and split it up between the cats.  I don't know if the Revolution 
> isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for 
> fleas.  If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially 
> bad year.
> Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes 
> switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a 
> tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is 
> processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them 
> for so long.  Who knows.  If you've been using Advantage maybe you 
> should try Revolution or Frontline Plus.  I believe Frontline Plus 
> kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that 
> might be a good one too.  I hate using all these chemicals on my cats 
> but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few 
> ferals that live here that I can't touch.
> 
> I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to 
> do something.  I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone 
> else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, 
> don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off 
> until it dries"
> and that really scares me.  If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the 
> yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad.  
> But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I 
> just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth.  I've been using Flea 
> Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product.  Well, I just 
> sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet 
> because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll 
> take a while to make a difference.  But if anyone wants to try them I 
> got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95.  I think you can order them 
> online also.  I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks.
> 
> The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store.  It's the food 
> grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are 
> thinking of trying it check your feed stores first.  I got a 50 lb bag 
> for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever.  I can't believe how 
> little it takes.  I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had.  
> I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and 
> putting a little in my cat's coats.  It's very very very dusty so you 
> definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it.  I am hesistant about 
> using it in the house because it is so so dusty.  That's why I went 
> with the borax inside in the carpets.  I did put the diatomaceous 
> earth on the cat trees and their bedding though.  The DE is the 
> consistency of flour.  Feels just like it and is dusty just like it.  
> I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust 
> cloud around them.  So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in 
> the house.  I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but 
> I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference.  
> I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked 
> them when they come in from outside.  They are still coming in with 
> fleas but I don't think it is as many.  The DE doesn't kill the fleas 
> right away either.  It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die 
> so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts 
> cutting down the flea population.  If anyone puts it on their cat I'll 
> just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling.  Still better 
> than fleas if you ask me.  Of course the cats are going to clean 
> themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade 
> stuff.  They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very 
> toxic.
> 
> I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline 
> asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' 
> food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms.  
> She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she started 
> using it.
> 
> Well, just thought I'd share the things I'm trying.  I'm still putting 
> Revolution on the cats because I've got a lot of it but if I don't 
> start seeing a difference soon I'll probably switch to either 
> Frontline Plus or Advantage.  Nothing has made a big difference so 
> far, except the borax and the vaccuming, but I think that's because 
> there are so many fleas outside that every time the cats go out they 
> pick up 100 more fleas and it takes time for all those fleas to bite 
> the cats and die.  I don't know.  I would think the flea products 
> would kill the fleas that get on them pretty quick but honestly it's 
> not.  I'm hoping once I get the yard under control that will bring the 
> flea population down tremendously.  Well, I'm off now to go finish 
> spreading more DE in the yard.  I'll let you guys know if it makes a 
> difference.
> 
> 
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
> are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it 
> inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
> it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
> looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
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