Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? What are they called & where do you get them! ~Bonnie
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. -----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? ---- Cindy McHugh <ci...@furangels.org> wrote: > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended > for dogs on it. So > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet > first about adjusting the dosage. > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things > ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no > problems. > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog > size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution > isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for > fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially > bad year. > Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes > switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a > tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is > processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them > for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you > should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus > kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that > might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats > but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few > ferals that live here that I can't touch. > > I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to > do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone > else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, > don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off > until it dries" > and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the > yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. > But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I > just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea > Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just > sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet > because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll > take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I > got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them > online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. > > The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food > grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are > thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag > for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how > little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. > I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and > putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you > definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about > using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went > with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous > earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the > consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. > I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust > cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in > the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but > I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. > I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked > them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with > fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas > right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die > so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts > cutting down the flea population. If anyone puts it on their cat I'll > just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling. Still better > than fleas if you ask me. Of course the cats are going to clean > themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade > stuff. They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very > toxic. > > I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline > asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' > food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms. > She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she started > using it. > > Well, just thought I'd share the things I'm trying. I'm still putting > Revolution on the cats because I've got a lot of it but if I don't > start seeing a difference soon I'll probably switch to either > Frontline Plus or Advantage. Nothing has made a big difference so > far, except the borax and the vaccuming, but I think that's because > there are so many fleas outside that every time the cats go out they > pick up 100 more fleas and it takes time for all those fleas to bite > the cats and die. I don't know. I would think the flea products > would kill the fleas that get on them pretty quick but honestly it's > not. I'm hoping once I get the yard under control that will bring the > flea population down tremendously. Well, I'm off now to go finish > spreading more DE in the yard. I'll let you guys know if it makes a > difference. > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that > are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it > inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward > it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without > looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org