Gloria I got on a CRf site that I've used and they recommended human b's. So I am giving him liquid b complex and also the methyl b 12 since the bcomplex isn't high in b12. I also ordered wellness canned food. He has eaten twice today. I mix it with water for fluids. But I do have to stick it under his nose and hold the bowl for him (and I don't mind). (-:
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmmm. Think blood work would add some insight into things like potassium, > blood counts. Can see if anemic, etc. Good that his gums are pink. Not sure > about the baby aspirin, maybe she's assuming pain? > > How bout some Pettinic or something like that with b vitamins possibly? > > Gloria > > > > On Sep 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Marcia Baronda wrote: > >> She did not do lab work. She said it won't make any difference in the way he >> will be treated. She had not heard of the ltci but did seem interested after >> reading through some of the data. She immediately got on the computer to >> look it up. My a ppt was at the end of the day so she said she wasn't to >> sure she could even talk to them and may not be able to until Tuesday >> because of the holiday. I think that they think he is too far gone. But how >> could it be that Thursday morning he comes up the stairs, rubs all over my >> legs, purrs and now he can't walk without stumbling all over? That makes no >> sense to me. Could it be that he is low on potassium? But how, when he had >> fluids? Maybe he has a brain tumor or something. He just peed on my couch >> twice. Just laid there and did it. Not like him. She also said he is not >> anemic. His nose is very pink and his gums are pink. Well that's all I know. >> Oh, I did just give him 500 mcg of methyl B12. It won't hurt! She also told >> me to give him 81 mg of baby aspirin 2X a week. >> >> Thanks you guys for listening(-: >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:02 AM, "Gloria B. Lane" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I was thinking about that. I haven't been following all of this, but with >>> anemia, that's what I did with Mittens (a long time ago). Some vets just >>> aren't really willing or able to try and help a sick FELV cat - though they >>> might be trainable :) You can of course give him sub-q fluids at home. >>> >>> My vet said that we could do a couple of blood transfusions, ,but that no >>> more than that. Not sure why - for biological reasons or practical >>> reasons. but a transfusion might pump him up till he could get LTCI or >>> interferon or something. Course as I recall, interferon alpha is more of a >>> preventative than a treatment. Not sure about interferon omega. >>> >>> >>> >>> Gloria >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Lynda Wilson wrote: >>> >>>> Marcia, >>>> >>>> Has Fletch had a blood transfusion yet? I've heard this helps >>>> tremendously. Did your vet tell you she will order the LCTI? Did she do >>>> any lab work to find out what his blood cell counts are? >>>> >>>> He may have not cried all the way there because he is too weak. I'm so >>>> sorry he is such bad shape!! >>>> >>>> In my opinion, just go with your heart. I know you don't want the poor >>>> little guy to suffer. >>>> >>>> Hugs~ >>>> Lynda >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcia Baronda" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 9:17 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone >>>>> I hope everyone and all kitties are happy and doing well. I'm really >>>>> afraid that I am going to lose Fletch. I took him back to the vet >>>>> yesterday for sub q fluids. He had a temp of over 105. Bonier than what >>>>> he was last week. She gave him a long lasting penicillin shot. She did >>>>> mention that most people don't mess with it, they euthanize. He didn't >>>>> cry all the way there (25 miles) which is highly unusual. I gave her the >>>>> info on LCTI and she was on the computer looking it up when I left. I >>>>> asked just HOW sick is fletch and she said VERY. When I got him home he >>>>> was extremely off balance and couldn't navigate. He wasn't like that the >>>>> day before. His quality of life sucks! It's hard for me to tell if this >>>>> is permanent or just a passing bacterial infection. Opinions from the >>>>> experts? (all of you)(-: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks so much >>>>> Marcia >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, katskat1 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is each vial an individual dose or are there multiple doses per vial? >>>>>> I am afraid this is way too expensive for my unemployment check but >>>>>> want the info if I have to try to find a way to obtain it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Kat >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/31/11, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, I just ordered 10 vials for $420 plus shipping through a >>>>>>> distributor in >>>>>>> Texas, let me know if someone needs more infor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:58:05 -0500 >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] where to purchase LTCI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Definitely try to get some LTCI. We put dexter on it for the last few >>>>>>> weeks >>>>>>> of his life and I feel that if we had started sooner, he might have >>>>>>> lived a >>>>>>> bit longer. LTCI is only available from the manufacturer: >>>>>>> www.tcyte.com - >>>>>>> if your vet will order it, they will overnight the medication to the >>>>>>> vet. I >>>>>>> was paying roughly $60 per dose at 1 dose every three days. It is >>>>>>> possible >>>>>>> to be more aggressive with the treatment and administer it daily. The >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> up-side to this medication is that it is administered via sub-cutaneous >>>>>>> injection - immunoregulin, on the the other hand, is via IV injection. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> IV injection will stress the kitty out about 1000 times more than a >>>>>>> sub-q >>>>>>> injection. Immunoregulin also made Dexter spike a fever after each dose >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> something he didn't need and quickly wore him out. Tcyte can also slow >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> inevitable appearance of dreaded lymphatic cancer. Many benefits with >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> stuff. Please call the tcyte folks tomorrow - they are very helpful and >>>>>>> will give you all the info you need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- My iPhone told me to send this message. -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Marcia Baronda <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone >>>>>>> I really need some help. >>>>>>> fletch is really not feeling well. His fever is back and he hides in the >>>>>>> basement. Two times now he has missed doses of his antibiotic because i >>>>>>> cannot find him anywhere. It seems like I can feel more of his backbone >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> his hipbones even though he continues to eat, but not as well. I don't >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> what to think. I feel so bad for him, he seems miserable.He acts like >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> base of his ear hurts when I touch him but the vet said he had never >>>>>>> seen >>>>>>> such clean ears. I think I need a different antibiotic, this amoxi isn't >>>>>>> working, or doees it take longer to work? There seemed to be a teensy >>>>>>> bit of >>>>>>> improvement, but now I feel like he looks as bad as the day I took him >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the vet. What about this LTCI. Is this something I should discuss with >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> vet? Is it better than immunoregulin. I just feel like my poor little >>>>>>> cat is >>>>>>> wasting away here fast and there's something else I can be doing for him >>>>>>> What do I do???? >>>>>>> Natalie, are you and all of your babies OK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks so much >>>>>>> Marcia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where do you guys get LTCI? >>>>>>> the distributor that my vet uses now only carry 3 vials set - they used >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> have 10 vials as it is much chepaer that way- could you tell me where >>>>>>> is the >>>>>>> best place to get LTCI? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hideyo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marcia Baronda >>>>>>> Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc. >>>>>>> 1550 S 2700 Rd. >>>>>>> Herington, Kansas 67449 >>>>>>> Phone: 785-466-2501 >>>>>>> Cell: 785-230-6499 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a >>>>>>> veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my >>>>>>> conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to >>>>>>> benefit >>>>>>> humans. They have the same right to exist as we do." 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