Thank you for this info - we have 5 FIV+ cats, and two of them have seriously, one just a little!


[] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch


[Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer included below]

I've got an FIV+ cat (Pasha) on the cocktail and can answer this.
The stomatitis cocktail was developed by the late Dr. Bob Wiggs at his
clinic (Dallas Animal Dental) in Dallas.  The actual mix of ingredients is
proprietary so nobody other than its makers actually know its components and
their proportions, but it is basically a holistic mix of non-steroidal,
non-controlled substances.  I first heard about it from a Yahoo Group
dedicated to feline stomatitis
( where a number of
people have reported positive results from its use.  I am attaching a fact
sheet about the cocktail, which was created by one the members of that Yahoo
Dr. Wiggs passed away last year and my understanding is that while his
estate is sorted out, the cocktail's availability will be somewhat limited
as the rights to the proprietary mix haven't been completely settled.  I
think that it was his wish to see the cocktail made more readily available
to help cats suffering from stomatitis and so presumably it will eventually
be easier to obtain and perhaps might even be produced locally rather than
centrally in Dallas.  Time will tell on that one.
I was informed that the formulation for FIV+ cats is slightly different than
for FIV-negative cats. 
Pasha, an 8-year old lifelong FIV+ cat with caudal stomatitis and tongue
ulcers so horrendously bad that his vet looks at me knowingly while
fingering the bottle of euthasol every time I bring him in, has been on it
for about six weeks.  I've been taking pictures of his mouth to monitor the
progress.  I can't really say it's had any positive impact, unfortunately.
Initially, it seemed like it was helping - after about 2 weeks the
inflammation had been reduced and his tongue looked better.  But at 3 weeks
both came back with a vengeance and he looks awful.  His appetite has been a
little better nonetheless, but he's not gained any weight.  His most recent
labs also weren't all that encouraging. I'm going to keep at it since I've
exhausted pretty much all of the other treatment options.  This doesn't mean
it doesn't work; it just means that it doesn't work on 100% of cats.  Other
people with FIV+ cats on the Stomatitis group have made favorable reports.
The cocktail costs around $45/month, and the clinic does require that
bloodwork be periodically reported so there are other ongoing costs you
could expect to incur as well.
When I get around to it, I'll upload some pictures to show what I'm talking
- Ben

From: joel kehler  <> <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [fiv-healthscience] Two updates: Daphne and Scrappy
I would be interested to know of what the "stomatitis cocktail" consists, if
/when you know.

Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer

1 of 1 File(s)
Information on the Stomatitis Cocktail.pdf


On 9/7/2011 11:02 AM, Marcia wrote: 

Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his mouth
now hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet today. Is there
any treatment for this mouth issue?


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On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey <> wrote:

You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or something like
that for just a few days though.

"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark


Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:44:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch

Same here!  


[] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch


It has always been my understanding that you should never give asprin to

Aspirin Side Effects

Aspirin is not a medication that is typically administered to cats. If
administered, it may cause a few side effects such as: 

*       Stomach acidity, which can lead to stomach ulcers
*       Upset stomach
*       Vomiting
*       Diarrhea
*       Blood coagulation delays
*       Lack of appetite

Read more: Can You Give a Cat Aspirin? - VetInfo

> From:
> To:
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:40:49 -0500
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Fletch
> Update and more questions. Yesterday Fletch ate very well and ate quite a
few treats too. He got up and walked around the kitchen for quite awhile. I
was so hopeful that maybe he was over the hump. Wrong. This morning he
refused to eat or drink and hasn't done so all day. I hav given him some
electrolytes 3 times today. He didn't like that a bit. He had very watery
poop with hard chunks in it. That happened twice. Once on the couch, which I
have plastic on under his blankets, and then another time I ran him to the
litterbox. His fever is back..I'm sure the aspirin wore off and he doesn't
feel good at all. Is this how this disease is all the time? Is this what his
life is gonna be like from now on? Because if it is, I can't see making him
go through this. I don't think he enjoys any part of this. Maybe he ate too
much yesterday, I don't know. Do they go thru this and then get better. Any
insight will be appreciated. Where does the fever come from?
> Thanks guys, I sure do appreciate each and every one of you.
> Marcia
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