Thank you for this info - we have 5 FIV+ cats, and two of them have stomatitis.one seriously, one just a little!
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch [Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer included below] I've got an FIV+ cat (Pasha) on the cocktail and can answer this. The stomatitis cocktail was developed by the late Dr. Bob Wiggs at his clinic (Dallas Animal Dental) in Dallas. The actual mix of ingredients is proprietary so nobody other than its makers actually know its components and their proportions, but it is basically a holistic mix of non-steroidal, non-controlled substances. I first heard about it from a Yahoo Group dedicated to feline stomatitis (http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Stomatitis/) where a number of people have reported positive results from its use. I am attaching a fact sheet about the cocktail, which was created by one the members of that Yahoo Group. Dr. Wiggs passed away last year and my understanding is that while his estate is sorted out, the cocktail's availability will be somewhat limited as the rights to the proprietary mix haven't been completely settled. I think that it was his wish to see the cocktail made more readily available to help cats suffering from stomatitis and so presumably it will eventually be easier to obtain and perhaps might even be produced locally rather than centrally in Dallas. Time will tell on that one. I was informed that the formulation for FIV+ cats is slightly different than for FIV-negative cats. Pasha, an 8-year old lifelong FIV+ cat with caudal stomatitis and tongue ulcers so horrendously bad that his vet looks at me knowingly while fingering the bottle of euthasol every time I bring him in, has been on it for about six weeks. I've been taking pictures of his mouth to monitor the progress. I can't really say it's had any positive impact, unfortunately. Initially, it seemed like it was helping - after about 2 weeks the inflammation had been reduced and his tongue looked better. But at 3 weeks both came back with a vengeance and he looks awful. His appetite has been a little better nonetheless, but he's not gained any weight. His most recent labs also weren't all that encouraging. I'm going to keep at it since I've exhausted pretty much all of the other treatment options. This doesn't mean it doesn't work; it just means that it doesn't work on 100% of cats. Other people with FIV+ cats on the Stomatitis group have made favorable reports. The cocktail costs around $45/month, and the clinic does require that bloodwork be periodically reported so there are other ongoing costs you could expect to incur as well. When I get around to it, I'll upload some pictures to show what I'm talking about. - Ben From: joel kehler <mailto:joelkeh...@yahoo.com> <joelkeh...@yahoo.com> To: fiv-healthscie...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [fiv-healthscience] Two updates: Daphne and Scrappy I would be interested to know of what the "stomatitis cocktail" consists, if /when you know. Attachment(s) from Ben Lehrer 1 of 1 File(s) Information on the Stomatitis Cocktail.pdf __._,_.___ On 9/7/2011 11:02 AM, Marcia wrote: Now Fletch has thick gooey looking saliva. He can't eat because his mouth now hurts. His fever is gone though. WhT to do. Calling vet today. Is there any treatment for this mouth issue? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Maureen Olvey <molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote: You can give baby aspirin like every other day or 72 hours or something like that for just a few days though. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain _____ Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:44:05 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch Same here! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fletch It has always been my understanding that you should never give asprin to cats: Aspirin Side Effects Aspirin is not a medication that is typically administered to cats. If administered, it may cause a few side effects such as: * Stomach acidity, which can lead to stomach ulcers * Upset stomach <http://www.vetinfo.com/best-cat-upset-stomach-remedy.html> * Vomiting * Diarrhea * Blood coagulation delays * Lack of appetite <http://www.vetinfo.com/causes-cat-appetite-loss.html> Read more: Can You Give a Cat Aspirin? - VetInfo <http://www.vetinfo.com/can-you-give-a-cat-aspirin.html#ixzz1XBGiC9jc> > From: marciabmar...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:40:49 -0500 > Subject: [Felvtalk] Fletch > > Update and more questions. Yesterday Fletch ate very well and ate quite a few treats too. He got up and walked around the kitchen for quite awhile. I was so hopeful that maybe he was over the hump. Wrong. This morning he refused to eat or drink and hasn't done so all day. I hav given him some electrolytes 3 times today. He didn't like that a bit. He had very watery poop with hard chunks in it. That happened twice. Once on the couch, which I have plastic on under his blankets, and then another time I ran him to the litterbox. His fever is back..I'm sure the aspirin wore off and he doesn't feel good at all. Is this how this disease is all the time? Is this what his life is gonna be like from now on? Because if it is, I can't see making him go through this. I don't think he enjoys any part of this. Maybe he ate too much yesterday, I don't know. Do they go thru this and then get better. Any insight will be appreciated. Where does the fever come from? > Thanks guys, I sure do appreciate each and every one of you. > > Marcia > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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