And brag about poaching?????
On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:05 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected] > wrote:

Around here, they are just good ole boys having some fun and since most are good ole boys, like doctors they all stick together and nevr point the finger at "one of our own".
---- Natalie <[email protected]> wrote:
Emus?  Where do you live?
What really pisses me off when those damned hunters refer to themselves, and
are referred to as the only real conservationists...what a joke!

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal!

Anyone who would even think about messing with one of my animals, will be one sorry SOB. A couple years ago someone shot two of my emus. Just for the he'll of it. A male sitting on eggs,and a little female that I was nursing back to health. Broke my heart. Offered reward, never found out who did it.
People drunk, shooting from the road.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
2010.

On Sep 11, 2011, at 7:49 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, around here cats and dogs provide good practice shots just before the
season. Someone said they were going to come to my house for some practice shots. I told them I would shoot them the minute they tried t shoot my cats. Of course they said they were just "kidding" and I said that had better be the truth because if one of my cats nded up shot, I wold come looking for them and after I shot them I would sue them for all I could get.


---- Natalie <[email protected]> wrote:
I think it's as usual, protests from veterinarians (who have no
business being vets) because it provides a good income!
Why do Hunting groups object to spaying and neutering?
Why is there a push by the government and supported by hunting
groups, to eliminate all stray cats by trapping, bowhunting, firearm
hunting?????

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is
illegal!

I took a look at the list of countries that do not allow declawing.
Why is the US always behind in this sort of issue?


---- Peggy Verdonck <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm from the Netherlands. Its illegal to declaw there. People who
want to have it done anyway will bring them to Belgium to have it
done. :-/

On Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM, "Beth" <[email protected]> wrote:
Our shelter does not allow our cats to be declawed. We tell them
about
declawing , offer free nail clipping at the shelter, or suggest they
adopt an already declawed cat.
I don't agree with having laws against declawing. I think you will
just
end up with more cats being dumped in shelters of outside. I think
education is the best way to get people away from declawing.


Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org



________________________________
From: tamara stickler <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is
illegal!


I never place a rescue cat with a person if they are going to
declaw
- BUT
- I DO offer free nail clipping for the duration for any cats that I
place in homes (as long as they are local...w/in 1.5 hrs.) for the
life of the cat.

I even have a woman who I turned down for cat adoption - that
adopted from
a shelter later - that asks me to come over once or twice a month to clip the cat's nails. She still doesn't understand HOW or WHY it is
inhumane - even after I explained it to her....but - it really
doesn't matter.  She is allowing her cat to keep it's nails a long
as I clip them - so- I'm willing to do that.

Terri - WAY TO GO standing your ground! - even if it did cost you
an
apt.
and job.  Good kharma will be the pay off for you!

Tamara

--- On Sat, 8/27/11, Natalie <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Natalie <[email protected]>
Subject: [Felvtalk] Declawing - list of countries where it is illegal!
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 27, 2011, 9:44 AM



A question about which states do NOT allow declawing:
http://cats.about.com/od/declawing/f/uslaws.htm
A list of countries where declawing is illegal:
http://www.declawing.com/list.html
From:[email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

Paws come with claws.  Period.  I once lost a job opportunity
(which came
with a free apartment) because the owner wanted me to declaw. I told
him:
"Unfortunately for you, it will NEVER happen, because I believe it's
cruelty to animals."

Needless to say, I never got called for a second interview.

And I'd do it again.

I think I was about 37 at the time. I've always had a big mouth.....

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori
and
6
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi
=^..^=
----- Original Message -----
From:Natalie
To:[email protected]
Sent:Friday, August 26, 2011 8:04 PM
Subject:Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously- it is
the most
devastating thing for a cat.  Knowing what I do, I would be more
heartbroken doing it to a beloved cat than being without the cat,
trust me.  I wonder how a cat would feel if
he/she knew that it had a choice between missing the owner or
having
their paws mutilated? According to Dr. Nicholas Doddman, who wrote The Cat that Cried for Help, after declawing surgery, cats feel such
extreme pain that they either climb the walls of the cage or sit
completely morose and cowering in the corner, something that their
owners will never see.  I have a copy of an article written for NY
Times Magazine a few years ago, where a woman writes about declawing her older cat because her mother's oriental rug was being scratched
up.  It is one of my hand-out's to adopters - the story is
heartbreaking, and very typical.  After the hurricane is over, I
will scan it and post it.  It is probably the best I've read,
without going
into the gory details of declawing.
Natalie

From:[email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

Sorry!  This is a 62 email thread in gmail.  I don't know how
your email
program organizes stuff.  Anyway I did not look at the date.

I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners
literally to
death after being given away, and honestly in that case I'd rather
declaw them.  Hopefully I will not need to make that choice.
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Natalie <[email protected]> wrote:
OMG - you are responding to a post from March..I thought that I
was going
crazy and somehow missed a whole thread of talking about declawing, NOW!
There are also some apartments that allow cats ONLY if they are
declawed.I guess they prefer taking their chances of those cats
peeing everywhere instead of possibly scratching something, and it
would most likely be the tenants' own furniture!
I would rather give my cat away than declaw it - especially when
it's an
older cat - it's so much harder on them (not that it isn't on
young(er) cats).
There needs to be a lot of education on declawing and what the
psychological/emotional and physical effects can take be.  We have
had a few abandoned declawed cats, and I have witnessed almost all
of them...but all the damage had already been done, and what was I
to do
- throw them out or kill them?  I found some homes that understood
the ramifications and dealt with the problems as well as they could.
From:[email protected] [mailto:
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Keep Cats Indoors
Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is
fortunate
enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home
is likely to require declawing.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie <[email protected]> wrote: That is true, but I don't understand why an old person can't have
a cat
with
claws. Dealing mostly with feral cats, I have never been bitten
or scratched - what's the danger, I am 70 yrs old.  And as I
said, bites are
a
natural defense for declawed cats!
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