This is a really interesting conversation, but for those of us who do not
have ready access to Spin Off, is the article available on-line?

John Sandstrom



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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Spin Off survey: Shetland = a down breed?

"The features that
distinguish primitive breeds from the modern breeds are a short, fine,
woolly coat mixed with hair or kemp, a predominance of colored fleeces,
and a tendency to molt annually."


This is all very well and good as far as it goes but there is no way that a
Karakul would fit this description.  Karakuls have been around for about
4000 years so I think that classifies them as "primitive".  They haven't
changed much in those 4000 years either.  Fournier and Fournier did a good
job on a lot of that information but I really have heartburn with some of
their descriptions and classifications.

Karakuls do not shed their wool.  Their fleece is neither short nor fine.
The ideal Karakul fleece has no downy undercoat.  Kemp is also undesirable.
Karakuls have colored fleeces, most definitely.  I have two lambs out there
right now that are beautiful colorations.  One is black and white - mainly
black with white patches scattered over her body.  The other is red and
white with similar markings.  Actually there are several red and white lambs

this year, one even has a black dot in the middle of her back along with the

red and white.  In the ewe flock are red, brown, dark brown, black, gray and

mixtures of same.  So the color thing applies but little else in the
classification.

However this description would perfectly fit the hair breeds of sheep.
Dorper, Katahdin, St. Croix, etc.  These breeds do not produce a spinning
fleece although they grow wool during the winter.  It's full of kemp and
fiber lengths are very short.  Sort of nasty from a spinners point of view.


Robin Snyder, spinner, weaver, shepherd
Border Collie Rescue - California  www.bcrescue.net
San Diego County, CA

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