> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frederic > Bouvier > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:20 PM > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release of FlightGear > > > I was too quick to press the reply button. I now see your > motivations, so receive all my apologies. > > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > Innis Cunningham wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Curt > > > I downloaded the windows binaries last night for > > > 9.4 and the problem of the drop down menu's > > > locking the sim up still seem to exist.Even if you > > > go to exit FG and then select cancel the sim locks up. > > > > Hey Innis, > > > > you just downloaded the release that is 3 months old ! > > There is no *** 0.9.5555555 *** ( not 4 ) Win32 binary > > yet. > > > > FYI, the menu lockup has been corrected in the binary below > > and is ok for the upcoming release. > > ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/FlightGear-0.9.4a.exe > > > > -Fred > > > > > The reason that I downloaded the binaries was that I > > > have just built a new box,that I am going to put linux > > > on,but wanted to find out how the new box compaired > > > for speed to the old box. To my surprise the frame rates > > > were worse than the old box. > > > The following tests were done using windows 98SE > > > The old box was a 850meg duron with 256 meg ram and > > > a GF4-MX-440 64meg graphics card.On this box I could get 27fps > > > sitting at the end of 28R at KSFO looking at the terminal. > > > The new box a 2gig athalon with 512meg ram and a FX5200 > > > 128meg graphics card could only give 22fps under the same > > > conditions.Also my son who has a 2.8 gig rig running an ATI 9800pro > > > card could only get 15fps.It seems the more powerfull the computer > > > the slower FG seems to run. > > FG is not using the latest features new cards are offering and the 'old' > features are pretty maxed out now. This is not an explanation for > worst performance but just for lack of improvement. In the meantime, > you probably switched to another setup/resolution that can eat computing > power on your back. > > > > > Now I dont know why that is but if we want to get new people into > > > FG we should see what the problem is. > > > As my son says if he had downloaded the game(sorry sim)and seen these > > > kind of results he would have just scrubed it and moved on and I guess > > > there are a lot of other people who would do the same thing. > > > My son says that he gets frame rates of well over 100 on Quake and Doom > > > which seem to be much more graphics intensive than FG. > > > Original Quake is not pushing so much triangles and textures to the card > because their action is indoor and the scene is bound to few rooms. Doom is > even using sprites for the monsters instead of full 3d and lots of tricks > are done to maintain a high framerate. That's said, FG is not very good > at framerate because it is modeling a lot of things in background and > it's graphic engine is a bit outdated. > > > > Also I noticed that in the 9.4 base the runfgfs bat file has been > removed. > > > Was there a reason for this. > > It has been supercede by fgrun that is much user frendly. > > > > I guess I did not notice this before because I was running the 9.4 > > binaries > > > with the CVS version of the base package and my own bat files. > > > When I ran the 9.4 version I downloaded last night it seemed to flash up > > > a dos window saying bad command or file name about were I would expect > > > to see the Alpha window on my other version of 9.4.The sim would then > > > continue to load.But once loaded the runway had black lines at the end > of > > > each texture. > > What is the Alpha window ? If you don't see fgrun, you probably have a path > problem that is in conflict with you cvs version. > The black lines are brought to you by newer hardware. I have the same and > they > probably come from anisotropic or another kind of filtering. > > > > I have seen this before when running AC3D and FG 9.4 at the same time on > > > my old box.On that system the sim would, under those conditions, only > run > > at > > > about 1fps or less.But in that case I could get the sim to run correctly > > by > > > shutting > > > down AC3D(maybe a memory thing).But with the version I downloaded last > > night > > > I could not get the black lines to disappear at all. > > > Is anyone else seeing this. > > > >From the air the runway looks like a step ladder. > > > Also on the new box the frame rates do not seem to change if I > > > have full fog or no fog.On the old box the frame rates would half > > > with no fog > > That last sentence make me feel that your performance problem is not > related with the graphic card. If submitting less job to the card give > the same result, that just mean that the bottleneck is not likely to > be the graphic system, either software or harware. > > > > So with a new version coming out could these problems be looked at. > > Not likely on performance this time. You can still submit bug reports > on the current version. > > -Fred > > > > _______________________________________________ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel >
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