But, that's exactly the cause for concern! Aside from the fact of
Smalltalk's obsolescence (which isn't really the point), the Squeak plugin
could never be approved by a 'responsible' sysadmin, *because it can run
arbitrary user code*! Squeak's not in the app store for exactly that
reason. You'll notice how crippled the allowed 'programming apps' are. This
is simple strong-arm bully tactics on the part of Apple; technical problems
 "solved" by heavy-handed legal means. Make no mistake, the iPad is the

-- Max

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Mack <m...@mackenzieresearch.com> wrote:

> For better or worse, both Apple and Microsoft (via Windows 8) are
> attempting to rectify this via the "Terms and Conditions" route.
> It's been announced that both Windows 8 and OSX Mountain Lion will require
> applications to be installed via download thru their respective "App
> Stores" in order to obtain certification required for the OS to allow them
> access to features (like an installed camera, or the network) that are
> outside the default application sandbox.
> The acceptance of the App Store model for the iPhone/iPad has persuaded
> them that this will be (commercially) viable as a model for general public
> distribution of trustable software.
> In that world, the Squeak plugin could be certified as safe to download in
> a way that System Admins might believe.
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
> Windows (especially) is so porous that SysAdmins (especially in school
> districts) will not allow teachers to download .exe files. This wipes out
> the Squeak plugin that provides all the functionality.
> But there is still the browser and Javascript. But Javascript isn't fast
> enough to do the particle system. But why can't we just download the
> particle system and run it in a safe address space? The browser people
> don't yet understand that this is what they should have allowed in the
> first place. So right now there is only one route for this (and a few years
> ago there were none) -- and that is Native Client on Google Chrome.
>  But Google Chrome is only 13% penetrated, and the other browser fiefdoms
> don't like NaCl..... Google Chrome is an .exe file so teachers can't
> download it (and if they could, they could download the Etoys plugin).
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