Yes... If you build it, it will be tested... ;-) I guess I was just trying to identify the minimum PDF viewers FOP strives to support.
As for 'cleanup', you mentioned the PS & PDF code'll be messier but it doesn't matter much... If it doesn't matter much (e.g., it's still valid) then I guess we're good... Clay On 2/15/08, Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14.02.2008 16:24:40 The Web Maestro wrote: > > In addition to Acrobat 6,7,8,+, Apple QuickView & Evince, I would > > think nice to have: > > - Acrobat Reader 5 (last version for Mac OS 9 Classic) > > - Apple Preview 10.4 (probably similar to QuickView) > > - Preview for 10.3 (Panther) would be nice too... > > People are allowed to test with all the PDF viewers they want. I have no > Mac so I can't test any of these. > > > Is it possible the PDF code for option 1 could be 'cleaned up' in the > > future (or does it matter)? > > Sorry, but I don't know what you mean. What's there to clean up? > > > Clay > > > > > > > > On 2/13/08, Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just some details what each approach will produce: > > > > > > #1 produces a /CIDFontType0 CIDFont [1] and a /Type0 Composite Font > > > referencing the former. > > > > > > #2 produces one or more /Type1 fonts. > > > > > > [1] for TrueType we produce a CIDFontType2 CIDFont and a /Type0 > > > Composite font for each TrueType font. OpenOffice produces one or more > > > /TrueType fonts for each TrueType font. > > > > > > #1 would always generate a CID font for simplicity. What you propose is > > > basically a "#2a", i.e. produce a /Type1 font if the document stays > > > within the default encoding of the font. If additional characters are > > > used FOP would switch to CID fonts instead of producing a /Type1 font. > > > So this needs elements from #1 and #2. Possible and probably makes sense > > > if CID fonts work in the first place. I like it. > > > > > > BTW, I just found out that I have to generate a ToUnicode CMap if a > > > Type1 font doesn't use one of the encodings that are predefined in the > > > PDF spec. So a little more work for me there. > > > > > > On 13.02.2008 11:57:34 Vincent Hennebert wrote: > > > > Hi Jeremias, > > > > > > > > With solution #1, if I happen to use only the glyphs from the font > that > > > > are available in its default encoding, will the resulting PDF be the > > > > same as in solution #2? > > > > What I mean is, will feature-incomplete PDF readers be able to display > > > > it? In which case this wouldn't be that bad. > > > > > > > > Anyway, solution #1 also looks cleaner to me, so go for it. If that > > > > means that I'll have to create a RFE for my favourite PDF reader, then > > > > I'll do it ;-) > > > > > > > > Vincent > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > > > > I've been asked to look into the possibility to support unusual > > > > > encodings (like Cyrillic) with Type 1 fonts. Right now we only > support > > > > > WinAnsiEncoding (plus special handling for Symbol and ZapfDingbats). > > > > > > > > > > I already have an AFM parser. The AFM parser is the precondition to > > > > > safely support non-standard encodings as only this file contains the > > > > > glyph list of a font. > > > > > > > > > > I'm now on a good way to support non-WinAnsi encodings since I can > now > > > > > build CodePointMapping instances from an AFM file. I then have to > teach > > > > > the PDF and PS renderers to make use of these special encodings. > > > > > > > > > > That's step 1, but it will only make the font's native encoding > > > > > available in FOP. The number of available glyphs for a Type 1 font > will > > > > > still remain under 255 (typicaly under 223 as the first 32 chars are > > > > > usually not used). To support all glyphs of a Type 1 font we need > more > > > > > and I found two possible ways to pursue: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Treat Type 1 fonts as CID fonts. > > > > > > > > > > + Probably the cleaner approach. > > > > > + All glyphs are supported under one single font (no font > renderer-level > > > > > font switching required, see below) > > > > > - Makes the generated PDF/PS code a little less readable but that's > not > > > > > important. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Do something like OpenOffice when handling fonts with more than > 255 > > > > > chars: Create multiple single-byte encodings which map to the same > base > > > > > font. This will require an 1:n relationship from font to char > mapping > > > > > which the renderers also have to handle. The first encoding will be > > > > > equal to the font's default encoding (PDF calls that the "implicit > base > > > > > encoding"). The other encoding(s) will be built from the rest of the > > > > > available characters. In the renderer it will be necessary to switch > > > > > fonts from one character to another (not the same as switching from > > > > > Helvetica to Symbol, i.e. not at FO level, but at renderer level). > > > > > > > > > > + Higher compatibility with PDF viewers which are not yet > > > > > feature-complete. > > > > > + Keeps the generated PDF/PS code more readable (not important) > > > > > - Switching between derived fonts (i.e. font with a common base font > but > > > > > with special encodings) is necessary. SingleByteFont needs to be > split > > > > > in two classes. > > > > > > > > > > An example: The "Baskerville Cyrillic" font contains 264 > > > > > characters/glyphs. The default encoding only contains 221 > characters. So > > > > > 43 additional characters can be made available like this. > > > > > > > > > > I'm currently leaning towards CID fonts as it is probably the > cleaner > > > > > approach. Both solutions are probably pretty much the same in terms > of > > > > > effort. The CID approach will take more work in the PS renderer and > the > > > > > multi-encoding approach will make changes necessary in FOP's font > > > > > library. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has thoughts on this, I'd appreciate it. I'll finish the > > > > > changes for supporting the default encodings and then finish the > > > > > processing feedback stuff before I finish this here. > > > > > > > > > > Jeremias Maerki > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Vincent Hennebert Anyware Technologies > > > > http://people.apache.org/~vhennebert > http://www.anyware-tech.com > > > > Apache FOP Committer FOP > Development/Consulting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremias Maerki > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > > > > Regards, > > > > The Web Maestro > > -- > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/> > > My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. > > - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet > > > > > Jeremias Maerki > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com Regards, The Web Maestro -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - <http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/> My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet